PCCB swap

[Guest]

Hi Guys,

Just wondering, I see a used S I am interested in, but it has PCCB which I would not have opted for.... as its v v v expensive.

Is it feasible to ask the OPC to swap with another S for the normal brakes in order to get price right.. Is it a nightmare job or relatively straightforward?

Thanks for the advice
GG

 

[JCB..]

ORIGINAL: Gordon_Gekko

Hi Guys,

Just wondering, I see a used S I am interested in, but it has PCCB which I would not have opted for.... as its v v v expensive.

Is it feasible to ask the OPC to swap with another S for the normal brakes in order to get price right.. Is it a nightmare job or relatively straightforward?

Thanks for the advice
GG

I don't expect that too many contributors here have actually had the opportunity to convert a PCCB car to a conventional set up.

I can't inagine that a dealer would want one sat in their showroom either as it's a complete waste of money on anything other than a full-on racing car.

(IMHO) []

JCB..

 

[burrow01]

If you post the question in the GT3 forum they may have done it, they always seem to be fiddling with their brakes []

Pete

 

[oliver]

PCCBs on a Boxster is very unusual. Must have been a special order car for management or press use.

And, yes quite a few GT3 and RS owners have changed them to various after-market steel options to lower the cost of consumables.

However, if you wanted to swap them with me (2005 987S - 4,000 mls) I'd take them.

Porsche Cars (GB and AG) are convinced that the benefits are worth the price and, in a few years, carbon ceramic brakes will become a 'must have' option on all their prestige (GT2/GT3/Turbo) models and will be increasingly sought after on their mainstream models.

At the moment though, many people are put off by the cost and scare stories.

 

[Guest]

I want to buy the car, but have no interest in the PCCB.

Interested to hear what you mean by scare stories.

 

[oliver]

Best to do a search or post a new specific question.

Mainly to do with heat/cracking, damage from the kitty litter on track days and rotor damage when wheels are being changed.

Porsche themselves will tell you that any defects have been dealt with under warranty and some damaged items have been replaced under goodwill. Others may disagree. Some don't want the risk.

They are fantastically good though, and have a suggested life of 250,000 miles. The latest specification (3rd generation) have an alloy hub, so the unsprung weight saving is really significant.

 

[Michael Downing]

ORIGINAL: Gordon_Gekko
Interested to hear what you mean by scare stories.

In a nutshell:

Some early owners of PCCB went back to the OPC pointing at cracks in the disc. Said OPCs offered to fit new discs and said that this would only cost about £25,000. Early owners asked about warranty. OPCs said that cracks were due to improper use or poor technique especially on track therefore no warranty coverage. Early owners fainted.

Later owners protected their PCCB discs from cracking by removing them from the car and placing them in nice safe boxes in the garage. They protected the car from crashing by fitting new discs made of old-fangled steel stuff.

[]

To be fair, Porsche claim that recent PCCB is slightly different and better. But I'd be nervous, and I'm very happy with the steel discs on my car even if they do go a brown colour every time I wash it. At my level of driving skill, I think the main benefit of PCCB is the absence of the brown colour and hence less maintenance cost as the discs last longer. But you have to factor in the possible risk of a brown coloration appearing on the car's seats if cracks do appear.