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Pirelli Sottozero Winter Tyres - First thoughts (after 200 miles)

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Thought one or two of you might be interested in what I make of the winter tyres I had fitted on Wednesday. Pirelli Sottozeros N-rated for a 997.2 C2s. Standard sizes, ie 19" 235/35 and 295/30. Had a mobile tyre fitter come and fit them to the OEM wheels and put the summer tyres in my garage.

The first 60 miles was a commute on Friday and they were tramlining and wandering on the motorway at 70 which I hope is down to them bedding in. Today I took her on my local spirited run that includes some top, top roads: Settle to Hawes via Ribblehead, A684 Hawes to Sedbergh via Garsdale, A6033 Hebden to Keighley, A682 Colne to Settle etc. 140 miles of fast and roller coasting twisties. Lovely.

Initially they felt a bit "floaty" but that seems to be settling down as the new treatment wears off. The front end definitely feels a bit lighter when cornering or accelerating (doh, it's a 911!!), presumably because the contact area is smaller than with summer tyres (same width but more gaps or sypes or whatever they call them) and the compound is obviously different. This was on dry roads so not their natural hunting ground I guess.

To corner effectively you have to trail brake a little harder than usual to engage the front wheels, and blink once before hitting the throttle or understeer still reigns. Once in the groove though, the car definitely tends more to oversteer (again, I would guess because the contact area on the rear is smaller and the compound less grippy in the dry) but in a way which makes the car feel satisfyingly alive (if you like that sort of thing). [;)]

I can't talk about snow but I deliberately parked it facing uphill on a wet muddy bank to test the traction from standstill and she pulled up the muddy slope like a dream (they are M+S tyres = mud and snow!!)

Under heavy braking, very reassuring. And I definitely put them through some serious brake tests.

Now for the pleasant surprise. I had read that they might be really noisy but I honestly don't think they're any different to my Michelin PS2s. Whoever reviewed them obviously doesn't drive a Porsche. But that's not the best bit: They are amazingly comfortable. Even on fairly rutted roads I found myself driving around in Sport mode without switching PASM back to Normal. Must be a softer sidewall than the PS2s. What can I say? Result!!

All in all, very satisfied with the first few miles. Bring on the snow!!
 
Paid about £900 for all four (via Mytyres) and about £50 for fitting. I asked the mobile fitter do all the ordering from Mytyres 'cos I can't be hanging around all day waiting on the off chance the tyres might actual turn up. Used a local firm I feel comfortable letting loose on my P&J and they did seem to be really careful (while I watched over them like a hawk [:mad:]). Cost seems to me good value since I'm not wearing out my PS2s for the next 5 months. If I get the timing right come resale this could even be a zero sum game.
 
I am about 500 miles into exactly the same tyres on my C4S. I bought a second set of Carrera Classis rims second hand as I reckoned they should last at least a couple of seasons and I understand that taking tyres on and off the rims isn't ideal. At first I have to say I didnt really notice much difference although, like the OP, they felt softer (in a good way) than the Bridgestones. I must check what pressure they are at! However, two recent experiences made me much more positive. The first was a very wet trip home from the airport a couple of weeks ago very early in the morning when the external temp was around 5 degrees. Motorway speeds with the odd patch of standing water and the car felt much more planted than with the Bridgestones (although they have done 10,000 miles so not really a like for like comparison). The second was yesterday morning, when we had quite a hard frost. An early morning drive, including some intentionally aggressive breaking on some frosty bits really impressed me. Looking forward to the winter now!
 

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