please help

[Guest]

I am a 25 year old dentist from swansea and have laid down my 2000 deposit for a boxster 2.7 with basalt black metalic, sat nav, heated seats, bose and partial leather (37k). I plan to have a may build and june delivery. I have the option to take a july delivery for the equivelent 3.2S but not sure if i can wait the extra month. I can afford it but is it worth it in regard to residual values, insurance, and the extra wait.

need to give an answer in the next few days so please give me an idea of what i should go for.

 

[penfold944]

Short awnser - Its worth every day of the wait.

C'est tout

 

[Guest]

Yes definately. I've got a 987S and it's without doubt one of the most amazing cars available this side of a fezzer. I'd never driven a mid engined car before, let alone one this balanced and swift. Guy's who've had TVR's swear they've never been so quick.

If you buy the 2.7 and you can afford the 3.2 then by the end of the first month you've had the car you'll start wondering whether the 3.2 would have been even better.

More cash and more wait, I'd just take it on the chin if you can!

Is it worth more via residuals and insurance? insurance yes, residual probably worse.

Easy on the options, keep it at about 10% max if you can, consider dropping the sat nav unless you do mobile teeth as its a large chunk of your extras. I've had heated seats, xenons and auto dimming mirrors (and rain sensitive wipers), all of which have been brilliant and would spec again. Also had full leather (looks good but not essential) and GT silver (an affectation but I def like it). But extras are a personal thing. Don't expect to get anything back on any of them (except poss 1000 plus a bit quid on sat nav).

 

[oliver]

With Porsches 'more' isn't necessarily 'better', and the 2.7 is a very accomplished roadster.

But, on this occasion, the 3.2'S' is worth the extra cost and the extra wait. And don't forget the heated seats[8D].

 

[thboxster]

Absolutely nothing wrong with a 2.7, I had one for 3 years and loved every minute of it. I did however decide to take a step up though when I replaced it and bought a new S. Again a superb choice. I was new to Porsche when I bought my 2.7 so I didn't feel like I was missing out not having a 3.2. 3 years later though I wanted a change so went for the big one. Given the option now I would probably go with the S.

Other than the power, the one thing that is apparent between the two cars is the variation between a 5/6 speed gearbox. Looking back at my 2.7 one of the best things was that each gear (5) seemed to pull for ever and this meant you weren't doing an awful lot of work with the gear stick. In the S (6 speed), i'm forever going up and down gears as the ratio is a lot closer and i'm also on average doing 1000rpm more. That has it's benefits though as you're 1000rpm closer to the engine making a more glorious noise.

If I were to do it all again i.e. had no experience of either, i'd go for a 2.7. that way I could look futher down the line to upgrading to an S. It's probably unlikely you'd go the other way.

 

[daro911]

ORIGINAL: drtowel

I have the option to take a july delivery for the equivelent 3.2S but not sure if i can wait the extra month.

IMO having owned 5 Boxsters to date 2.5 2.5 3.2 3.2 3.2 I would strongly suggest you go for a nice long test drive this weekend and I think the answer to your question will be very obvious and no longer a dilema []

The extra 744 hours will pass quickly enough []

 

[Rob Edwards]

Hi
What a wonderful dilemma! Both are fantastic cars with exceptional balance and handling and neither could be described as wanting in the 'shove' department.
IMHO I would go for the 'S', as the extra performance is noticeable - I thoroughly enjoyed both my Boxsters (better handling than my 997S) and I would agree that it is best to approach the options list with a level head and not get too carried away - having said that, if you can afford the toys, then spec it the way you want it to be - that's what makes Porsches so individual.
I'm sure you'll be grinning from ear to ear, especially with those great roads over the Black Mountains!
Enjoy!![]
Rob

 

[IainCameron]

ORIGINAL: drtowel

I am a 25 year old dentist from swansea and have laid down my 2000 deposit for a boxster 2.7 with basalt black metalic, sat nav, heated seats, bose and partial leather (37k). I plan to have a may build and june delivery. I have the option to take a july delivery for the equivelent 3.2S but not sure if i can wait the extra month. I can afford it but is it worth it in regard to residual values, insurance, and the extra wait.

need to give an answer in the next few days so please give me an idea of what i should go for.

Well James, we are all waiting to know what you have decided to do.

Insurance and residuals should be the similar. The extra wait of a month is nothing compared with the extra thrill it will give you for years to come.

Whatever you may do you have made a very good choice in purchasing a Porsche Boxster, be it a 2.7 or 3.2.

Many happy miles of motoring.

Now open wide and let me see those molars!

 

[Dapster]

You will have a great car in the 2.7. It is not like say the old Beemer Z3 where you had an avoid-at-all-costs poverty spec 1.9 propping up the bottom of the range.The 2.7 is a serious bit of kit and one which you'll never regret getting (I had one and loved every minute of it).

However.... the 3.2 is simply astonishing. It's quicker, makes a terrific noise and has the 6 speed box (I know you can get the 6 spd box as an extra now in the 2.7 but I've never seen it and it's very expensive) which I think is better. If you can afford it, then I would go for the S.

I'd agree with the 10% limit on extras rule which will get you a really well specced car. Remember, you will not actually get anything back on extras - on some you may loose less money than others, or help you to sell it on more quickley, but the extras will not appreciate as the car gets older.

For my money I would always spec sport seats and sports wheel (I'm a slim build and the seats are lovely and the sports wheel is delicious to hold) and Bi-Xenons. Metallic and big wheels are a personal indulgence but the 19" I have do not seem to unsettle the ride unduly. A stereo upgrade I would recommend but full Bose? Not worth it in my opinion, nor is the auto climate control.

Drive the S and see what you think.

 

[jw2015]

The S will obviously be better, so if money is not an issue then why not, although surely with you being 25, the ongoing insurance costs will be much higher? However, the 2.7 will blow you away anyway, and if you don't drive the S you'll never know what you're missing. I knew when buying mine that if I'd brought an S out I'd probably not be happy with a 2.7, so I didn't test drive the S and saved myself a small fortune. The 2.7 is more of a car than I can handle anyway, all I have to do now is avoid the continuous temptation of testing driving a 3.2.
As for extra's, if you're not planning to keep it for a long time then go easy. The only thing extras will do is make it easier to sell yours from among the hordes of cars that will no doubt be on the market whenever you go to sell. However, you will lose a fortune on most items. The only things I'd recommend are the heated seats for top down driving in colder weather, the wind deflector, the parking sensors (cheaper than replacing the bumper) and I'd highly recommend whatever variation of stability managment is on board these days, it keeps you out of trouble on the main roads and you can always switch it off on the track. If you have a bit of cash, I'd also opt for the partial leather. You won't lose too much on those but if you start going for really expensive things like Sat Nav, BOSE, etc you'll just be throwing your money away, unless you're planning to keep the car for a long time and you want to spec it to completely suit yourself.

 

[Guest]

well im sure your all waiting and i do appreciate all your advice. after reading all your posts i have decided to go for the 3.2S. I rang the porsche centre this morning and man is searching all uk centres for a showroom car matching my spec - meaning i dont have to wait for july. hoorahhhhh!!!!

the other option is the black 3.2S in sutton cold field having done 2000 miles - would this be a better option at 42k and can you negotiate the price down or is it fixed???

welcome your thoughts

james

 

[Mark_Bennett]

If you ar ethinking of keeping the car for any significant time, it's worth speccing your own - and do it your way. Not to what you think will help sell afterwards[&:] Worth bearing in mind who you are buying it for - you? Or the next owner...?

 

[thboxster]

ORIGINAL: drtowel

The other option is the black 3.2S in sutton cold field having done 2000 miles - would this be a better option at 42k

It depends on what thiscar comes with. I spec'd by S to my requirements and mine came in at 43k (I think).

IMO, I would spec my own, unless it's got loads of toys. Otherwise you may find that it's no better value and you end up with a car that isn't quite what you wanted.

 

[Black80XSA]

The more you pay, the more you'll lose in depreciation - yes the S is faster, but in the real world (incl commuting) the 2.7 with 250bhp can more than hold its own - this is close to the old 986S output remember.

You'll see 4-5mpg less from the S, and its more expensive to insure.

I luv my 987S, and it can be frighteningly fast , but then so could my old 2.7.



If the one at SC is basalt with sport design wheels its been up at £42k since January - you should be able to knock £2k off for cash or with finance options, and you'll need to - its trade in value is about £34k (the days of Boxster residuals are long gone i'm afraid, despite what the OPC tell you)

 

[Dapster]

Like Tony says you can get a better spec brand new one for a tad more than the car at Sutton Coalfield. That car doesn't have the xeonons or sports seats that mine has and yet costs just a grand less than I paid for mine. You are paying a premium to jump the queue. If you can chop a couple of thousand of the price, then perhaps it's worth it, but if you're spending forty grand plus on a newish car, you may as well pay a bit more and get it exactly as you want it. A few months wait will be worth it - there may well be a cancellation between now and July which will allow you to bring your order forward anyway.

 

[thboxster]

If you spec your own then:

1 week to finalise your details
1 week left in March
12 weeks till July
Probably comes in slightly early (2 weeks)

So your only talking 12 weeks (ish) from now until it's delivered and there's plenty of summer left after that!

 

[timhum2002]

Not wishing to be too cynical but is the dealer trying to shift a 2006 model ahead of the 2007 with the 3.4 litre engine or is the capacity change further away than this?

Tim
997C2S

 

[daro911]

ORIGINAL: timhum2002

Not wishing to be too cynical but is the dealer trying to shift a 2006 model ahead of the 2007 with the 3.4 litre engine or is the capacity change further away than this?

Tim
997C2S

I think drtowel is the driving force on this enquiry not the dealer [8D] I wouldn't touch a 2000 miler @ 42K which is probably not even a few thousand below list if that. Dealers have huge margins in used stocks currently if you are reading this drtowel I would phone several dealers and see whats available today or shortly off the decks. Just 2 months ago there were plenty of unsold cars in stock or coming into stock and this situation might have improved but I doubt its gone away entirely. If you want anymore info PM me and I will make a few calls for ya

 

[Guest]

cheers daro, i am after a metalic black 3.2s with heated seats, park assist, sat nav, partial leather, bose and porsche crested head rests. have put a 2k deposit on with cardiff which they say is non refundable so is only tranferable to another car from cardiff.

 

[daro911]

ORIGINAL: drtowel

have put a 2k deposit on with cardiff which they say is non refundable so is only tranferable to another car from cardiff.

[&o] Then you are stuck with OPC Cardiff so if I was you phone around other dealers and see what if anything is available off the decks today or shortly and see if Cardiff offers you these same unplaced cars. Good luck and whatever happens its worth the wait []

If you checkout the following link you will see shed loads of 2006 low low mileage cars at OPC's these were probably some of the unsold stocks that hit the UK back in January

http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/WWW/cars_search.asp?modelexact=1&lid=search_used_cars_full&make=PORSCHE&model=BOXSTER&min_pr=75&max_pr=&mileage=&agerange=&postcode=e9+5lw&miles=1500&max_records=50&source=0&photo=1&sort=5&ukcarsearch_full=SEARCH