Problem after problems
- Thread starter Ronnie C
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So far I've only had the recalls for bonnet (loctite applied to striker plate fixing screws) and tailpipes.
More info regarding engine please Ronnie.
More info regarding engine please Ronnie.
As posted on Rennteam:
Hey Ronnie, really sorry to read your list of woes.
I myself (06-2005 model) have had only a few rattles here and there, along with the standard recalls. I did have a few issues after my PSE install but after these were fixed it's been as good as gold.
I guess your car was one of the first 997s off of the production line yes? What has prompted the engine rebuild/replace though? Ongoing RMS issues perhaps? Given you've only done 12k miles in nearly 2 years I don't see how Porsche can claim "˜over-use' of ANY components. So the clutch suggestions are simply insane.
I hear what you are saying about your time being money. I myself strangely enjoy popping down to my local OPC, to see all the cars (Turbo/C GT/GT3/GT3 RS models out the back). But I am only 5 mins drive away and my time is a bit more flexible than most given I typically work from home. I am wondering whether you could request a pickup of the car in future? My OPC tends to bend over backwards to accommodate any inconveniences I may come up against.
If I were you though, I would use all these issues to see if you can get a good trade-in price for a Turbo or a GT3
Hey Ronnie, really sorry to read your list of woes.
I myself (06-2005 model) have had only a few rattles here and there, along with the standard recalls. I did have a few issues after my PSE install but after these were fixed it's been as good as gold.
I guess your car was one of the first 997s off of the production line yes? What has prompted the engine rebuild/replace though? Ongoing RMS issues perhaps? Given you've only done 12k miles in nearly 2 years I don't see how Porsche can claim "˜over-use' of ANY components. So the clutch suggestions are simply insane.
I hear what you are saying about your time being money. I myself strangely enjoy popping down to my local OPC, to see all the cars (Turbo/C GT/GT3/GT3 RS models out the back). But I am only 5 mins drive away and my time is a bit more flexible than most given I typically work from home. I am wondering whether you could request a pickup of the car in future? My OPC tends to bend over backwards to accommodate any inconveniences I may come up against.
If I were you though, I would use all these issues to see if you can get a good trade-in price for a Turbo or a GT3
nsm3
New member
Mine is an 18th Sep'o4 (UK official release date I believe?) with 17k miles, but I have only had it since 12k miles.
A few of the problems listed above (clutch mod, dashboard rattle, exhaust tips, replace wheel nuts, replacement RMS) were dealt with in one visit when it went in for something fairly minor (the bonnet catch and light not working correctly), so I didn't get time to become "annoyed" by persistent repeat visits to the OPC.
I have learnt to live with the squeaking seats, the "homelink" that doesn't "link" to my "home" and as of yesterday, my clutch gives off a slight squeal pulling away in first when it is hot (possible thrust bearing?), but overall, I have been surprised at the number of minor faults considering the value of the car. This is especially when compared to my Audi TT (coilpacks) and BMW M3 (big end bearings) which both seemed to have major issues affecting the engine/driveability, but practically nothing in terms of the "minor quality control/minor design flaw" type of issues.
All that said, the dynamics of the car are in a league of their own compared to my 2 previous drives and this keeps the ownership experience a largely positive one for me.
The big issue for me is, due to my useage of the car (5k PA, mostly weekends only) and the depreciation involved, I am considering chopping it for a Lotus Elise!! The head is saying do it (£30k back in the bank), but the heart won't let me make the jump as I have always wanted a Porsche and love driving it (especially with my constantly disconnected PSE) - what to do, what to do??
A few of the problems listed above (clutch mod, dashboard rattle, exhaust tips, replace wheel nuts, replacement RMS) were dealt with in one visit when it went in for something fairly minor (the bonnet catch and light not working correctly), so I didn't get time to become "annoyed" by persistent repeat visits to the OPC.
I have learnt to live with the squeaking seats, the "homelink" that doesn't "link" to my "home" and as of yesterday, my clutch gives off a slight squeal pulling away in first when it is hot (possible thrust bearing?), but overall, I have been surprised at the number of minor faults considering the value of the car. This is especially when compared to my Audi TT (coilpacks) and BMW M3 (big end bearings) which both seemed to have major issues affecting the engine/driveability, but practically nothing in terms of the "minor quality control/minor design flaw" type of issues.
All that said, the dynamics of the car are in a league of their own compared to my 2 previous drives and this keeps the ownership experience a largely positive one for me.
The big issue for me is, due to my useage of the car (5k PA, mostly weekends only) and the depreciation involved, I am considering chopping it for a Lotus Elise!! The head is saying do it (£30k back in the bank), but the heart won't let me make the jump as I have always wanted a Porsche and love driving it (especially with my constantly disconnected PSE) - what to do, what to do??
Dapster
New member
Don't do it!! The Elise is neither fish nor fowl. Not hard core enought to warrant being a single minded track car or weekend only blast like a Caterham, and no where near competent enought to rival a 986 or 987 S as an every day option. Just look at the roof mechanism, crash protection, creature comforts, running costs etc.
Test drive a 987 - you know it makes sense!!
By the way, I think this catalogue of disasters you've had Ronnie is very unfortunate but not respresentative of the marque.
pvernham
New member
Wow - that is an eye opener and enough to overshadow the ownership experience. It's the kind of history I would expect to read about on the TVR website!!
In comparison I have been lucky. Only one visit to the dealers about 9 months ago to adjust the cabrio roof mechanism due to squeak. The recalls were done at the same time. This on a launchday cabrio (10 April 05) with 16k on the clock.
In comparison I have been lucky. Only one visit to the dealers about 9 months ago to adjust the cabrio roof mechanism due to squeak. The recalls were done at the same time. This on a launchday cabrio (10 April 05) with 16k on the clock.
turbo jonny
PCGB Member
How about a classic 911 with virtually no depreciation.Thats why i chose my 3.6 turbo !
If i went 997 i would expect much better reliability.A friend has one and the carpet wore through by 10k miles !!!!!
If i went 997 i would expect much better reliability.A friend has one and the carpet wore through by 10k miles !!!!!
Guest
New member
slightly longer list of problems, including major electrical failures (that prompted the dealership to refuse allowing me to drive the vehicle home) with my cayenne - again an early built model. I ended up chopping it in for a 997 C4s Cab with a very good trade in deal. Once a lemon always a lemon - change it for something else, negotiate hard. Also memo to self, never buy a new production car - always wait 18-24months for them to iron out problems....
Recalls are chassis number dependant, check with your OPC. I don't think there are any recalls as such, only "Workshop Campaign" items, which should automatically be done when your car is in for service.
pvernham
New member
Jonathan
I know that they did the 'recall' on the exhaust which is covered elsewhere on the forum at length.
There were also comments elsewhere on the forum about the clutch or gear linkage but my car didn't need that. There was one other item but I don't recall (!!) what it was.
I guess some of these things are dependent upon specification, so as suggested, best to speak to your OPC about your specific car.
Paul
I know that they did the 'recall' on the exhaust which is covered elsewhere on the forum at length.
There were also comments elsewhere on the forum about the clutch or gear linkage but my car didn't need that. There was one other item but I don't recall (!!) what it was.
I guess some of these things are dependent upon specification, so as suggested, best to speak to your OPC about your specific car.
Paul
Don't forget that the exhaust recall was only for "S" models.
richardheeley
New member
Wise words that I wish I'd listened to before buying my 'first off the shelf' Nov 05 Cayman S, whose PASM system has never worked properly. I'm now staring down the thick end of ten grand to get out of the car and into one that's been built properly.
You would have thought that Porsche could do better considering they make more profit per car than any other manufacturer in the world. Perhaps that's why they make more profit per car than any other manufacturer.
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