PSE install - do I have to fit the switch too?

[POR_NT]

Ok, I'm sure this is answered somewhere either here or on Renntech but I can't find the answer...

After much deliberation, watching of eBay, reading owners' comments, etc., I think I'm about ready to get myself a PSE (not GHL, Fabspeed, Tubi, Milltek or the aparent dozens of others who make replacement mufflers).
I've missed a couple on eBay but to be honest, for the difference in money I think I'm going to buy new from local OPC (the last eBay auction I missed out on finished at approx £780, whereas I can get pair of mufflers for £1,080, so if I keep the car for 3 more years, and sell the PSE seperately, it'll have cost me £100 p.a.!)

I understand that the sports mufflers come with a switch as standard (can't order aPSE without?). I'm not bothered about fitting the switch.
Am I right in assuming that this is ok, and that it simply means that the exhaust will be loud all of the time and that without the switch I will just have no way of reducing the volume?

Thanks.

 

[John Ware]

That's correct. You can have the switch fitted later if you change your mind.

 

[Rotorhead]

Even with the switch the default position is on.

IMO the switch is not essential.

 

[Johndstratford]

I am looking at a PSE for my 996 and was told that to have the switch fitted cost an extra seven hours labour (do the maths!)and of the 16 they had fitted no-one had bothered having the switch fitted.

Let us know how you get on.

regards

John Stratford
924S
996

 

[pmjt]

For what it's worth I bought a GT3 MkII a couple of weeks ago - with PSE fitted - and oh boy it's worth it [][][][]

The switch was fitted (from the factory) but I can't for the life of me think why anyone would ever use it!

P

 

[colinb1]

Can anyone explain exactly what the switch does please?
Thanks

 

[pmjt]

ORIGINAL: colinb1

Can anyone explain exactly what the switch does please?

When you start the car the PSE disable switch is 'off' as standard - meaning the sports exhaust is on - so you get a deeper note to the sound and quite a bark when the revs come up around the 5,000 mark - there's also a wonderful overrun burble which sounds so good I keep opening the window to hear it []

When the switch is pressed and the light on, the PSE is disabled / muted and the car sounds like a 'standard' exhaust car.

HTH

P

 

[Muzzer911]

How can I tell if my car is fitted with a PSE. The exhaust noise is really loud (louder that other 996's I have heard).

 

[Rotorhead]

You'll know.

On the normal 996 (C2/C4/C4S) the standard exhaust sounds rather subdued and constrained and even 'whiney' sometimes. It's fine, but not very inspiring.

With PSE the engine/exhaust notes are far more sporting and it really enhances the character of the 996. You wouldn't call it loud or intrusive, but it has a gorgeous delivery, which can resemble a Ferrari V8. Very addictive.

 

[Richard_Hamilton]

ORIGINAL: Muzzer911

How can I tell if my car is fitted with a PSE. The exhaust noise is really loud (louder that other 996's I have heard).

Look for (I)XLF on the options sticker under the bonnet or in the service book. That would tell you if it was a factory fitted option.

 

[Hasan]

I fitted my PSE with the switch at OPC Cambridge a while ago and I absolutely love it. (They said I had to fit it with the switch)

My only problem with it is that it switches off between 30 and 45 mph, and you can't override this feature []

Whenever I pull away, you get that magnificent bark and then all of a sudden at 30 MPH, it disappears!...

 

[POR_NT]

Ok guys. My indi is fitting the PSE for me this Friday!! WooHoo!

And while I was at the dealers on Saturday collecting the PSE, I went mad and bought the turbo tips too!

"Quick, get me out of here before I buy something else!" I thought to myself

I'll let you know how it goes on Friday, assuming that is I can drag myself away from the car.

There's a C4S cabrio that has recently started going past my house every morning, and it clearly has PSE cos the first time it went past I thought "what the hell is that"...
Seriously nice!

That's wot really tipped me over the edge...order placed, goods collected, fitting scheduled.

 

[pmjt]

ORIGINAL: BB_996

Ok guys. My indi is fitting the PSE for me this Friday!! WooHoo!

[] enjoy []

With the good weather of the past few days I've been finding reasons to take the GT3 out for a blat - and when I'm going under bridges / through tunnels I ALWAYS open the window - just can't get enough of the sound - something I NEVER did with my previous eight 996's!!! It's a worthwhile investment []

P

 

[jramsden68]

Hasan,

The PSE (and switch) were already fitted to my 996 C4 when I purchased it (plus the GT3 aerokit). They alone sold the car to me. However, I am not aware of it switching off after 30 mph, as it remains loud all of the time, especially when you put yer foot down. The only time it switches off is when I manually switch it (and that never happens).

Jason

 

[Hugh Ross]

The automatic switch off of the PSE in a OPC or factory fitted one at 30 - 40 ish is apparently something to do with a deal between Porsche and the EU over noise regs, presumably to do with noise/urban area etc. There was a previous thread on how to disable the automatic 'off' and there are people out there who know how to do it. Not enough tunnels in the UK.
Hugh

 

[POR_NT]

Hugh,

Perhaps you should join up with this crowd:

http://www.channel4.com/4car/feature/feature.jsp?id=161&page=2

 

[Hugh Ross]

Neil
Excellent - I saw the Sky version of Top Gear (Vroom Vroom?) cover this last week - just a bit too far for me to get to of an evening. Have to make do with the Clyde Tunnel in Glasgow and the odd underpass in Edinburgh, shame.
Hugh

 

[Muzzer911]

ORIGINAL: Richard Hamilton

ORIGINAL: Muzzer911

How can I tell if my car is fitted with a PSE. The exhaust noise is really loud (louder that other 996's I have heard).

Look for (I)XLF on the options sticker under the bonnet or in the service book. That would tell you if it was a factory fitted option.

I do not have this option code in the service book. But neither did I have the 'aerokit code'. This was fitted at a later date by the OPC.

Is there any way of telling if the PSE has been fitted at a later date?

 

[POR_NT]

John (et al),

er, WOW!!!!

Had my car back from my indi this afternoon...what a sound!

Stop thinking about it, and just get it bought & fitted. It finally makes the car sound as good as it looks!

I can't believe I've had the car 6 months and not fitted it sooner, it really is that good.
It does actually sound more like a v8 than a flat 6.

I'm going to raise a new thread on the tips though, a I had the "turbo look" tips (genuine Porsche parts) fitted, and they kinda stick out a bit...not sure if I've got any other optipons though.
Perhaps if my 996 was a facelift, with the revised rear bumper, manybe they'd look more at home...

Anyhow, sports mufflers, get 'em bought! And don't forget, your PCGB membership should get you 10% discount. What you waiting for?

 

[Guest]

Hi,

having just bought a 996 facelift 02 car without the PSE and reading all the praise the system seems to be getting I called a local OPC and they advised. That the price for the PSE 'kit' which consists of the muffler, switch, Vacuum Induction system etc...is £1400 for the parts (-10%) discount and a further £600 approx to fit..

He said also that not having the switch fitted would mean that the car would not pass the emissions test when getting it's next MOT ! Are these scare tactics or has anyone had this problem, with MOT failure on a car without the switch?

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