Puncture repair or new tyre?

[jleo]

Checking the Boxster over today in prep for a trip abroad on Thurs I have found a nail slap bang in the middle of one of the rear tyres. [&:]

They're only about 30% worn if that so don't fancy replacing it. What's the likelihood of finding someone willing to repair it?

How serious do you think I should take the advice from the handbook about not repairing tyres and replacing them in pairs if x amount worn?

cheers

 

[Mark_Bennett]

Your call, but you are not supposed to repair Z-rated tyres. Plenty of places will repair though.

If you are planning any max-speed trips on Autobahns I would definitely replace. Similarly if track work may be involved.

If you have PSM, you have to ensure the difference in wear between tyres on the same axle is not too great - or the PSM can think you are in a permanent spin!

 

[JCB..]

ORIGINAL: jc

Checking the Boxster over today in prep for a trip abroad on Thurs I have found a nail slap bang in the middle of one of the rear tyres. [&:]

They're only about 30% worn if that so don't fancy replacing it. What's the likelihood of finding someone willing to repair it?

How serious do you think I should take the advice from the handbook about not repairing tyres and replacing them in pairs if x amount worn?

cheers

I've had a puncture in every pair of rear tyres I've bought for the last 6 and half years and two in the fronts. I've had them all repaired ( 8 in total) with no problems at all.

One was even repaired at Qwikfit!

 

[jleo]

ORIGINAL: Mark Bennett

If you are planning any max-speed trips on Autobahns I would definitely replace. Similarly if track work may be involved.

Well I'm going to Norway where the max speed limit is 100kph so wont exactly be on the limit driving.

Going to follow JCB's example and see if I can find someone to repair it, starting with Protyre who will at least take care with the rim

 

[oliver]

ORIGINAL: JCB..

ORIGINAL: jc

Checking the Boxster over today in prep for a trip abroad on Thurs I have found a nail slap bang in the middle of one of the rear tyres. [&:]

They're only about 30% worn if that so don't fancy replacing it. What's the likelihood of finding someone willing to repair it?

How serious do you think I should take the advice from the handbook about not repairing tyres and replacing them in pairs if x amount worn?

cheers

I've had a puncture in every pair of rear tyres I've bought for the last 6 and half years and two in the fronts. I've had them all repaired ( 8 in total) with no problems at all.

One was even repaired at Qwikfit!

I've lost count of the number of tyres I've had repaired, all without problems, although I'm a bit more wary with the fronts.

Of course some tyre specialists would rather sell you a profitable new tyre than carry out a repair, but Protyre are normally excellent.

 

[Gordon Attar]

Had quite a few repaired just ask around, for my piece of mind I wouldnt like to risk them on track or doing very high speeds

 

[Brian Halling]

Well I'm going to Norway where the max speed limit is 100kph so wont exactly be on the limit driving.

Don't underestimate the Norwegian driving experience. We (four Boxsters) have just returned from a fabulous week in Norway, and although the roads are not that fast I would not want to drive in the mountains on a mended tyre.

 

[A Clift]

ORIGINAL: jc

Well I'm going to Norway where the max speed limit is 100kph so wont exactly be on the limit driving.

Damn, I knew we forgot something.......must remember to change over to kph next time and enjoy the scenery[]

 

[Black80XSA]

The longer you run around with the nail in the more chance there is of increasing the puncture site on the inside of the tyre, which might mean that for a proper repair the tyre will need to be vulcanised (which means sending it away to a specialist, and a few days delay).

It all depends on the size of the puncture hole - i had a plug repair on my old 986 in a rear, and that was fine for 12 months until i sold it. I currently have a vulcanised repair in one of my 19inche rears - been fine for 6k miles. For normal speed driving a plug repair is fine - for track days and autobahns then take advice from a tyre dealer you trust like Protyre.

 

[channella]

Just to break the mould here, I'd replace, and always have done. Tyres are a critical safety component.

 

[jleo]

ORIGINAL: Brian Halling

Well I'm going to Norway where the max speed limit is 100kph so wont exactly be on the limit driving.

Don't underestimate the Norwegian driving experience. We (four Boxsters) have just returned from a fabulous week in Norway, and although the roads are not that fast I would not want to drive in the mountains on a mended tyre.

Going off topic here but know what you mean about the mountain roads, this is my third trip to Norway this year. The best one was in April when the snow was layering down and these guys in a Passat 4x4 towing canoes, lent out the window to give me thumbs up as if to say 'good luck mate you'll never make it', but I did[]

But didn't make it out of work today so will be looking for a fix tomorrow. Reckon that nails been in a while though so are if it needs 'vulcanising'[&o]...forget it

 

[JCB..]

ORIGINAL: boxster27

Just to break the mould here, I'd replace, and always have done. Tyres are a critical safety component.

If there were anything 'unsafe' about plugging a tyre I don't believe that

(a) The "Nanny State", that most of the clientele of this forum whine about so often , would allow tyre companies to repair punctured tyres.

or

(b) My best mate who has been in the trade for over 30 years and until recently was part of the Protyre chain would have ever let me drive out of his premises with one on the car.

Just my humble opinion of course but I like to think it's informed. [&:]

I will of course revise that opinion if someone has some technical information as to why a properly repaired tyre should be any less trustworthy.

 

[jleo]

All sorted for 20 quid at Protyre in Slough. Having taken the wheel off and locating the nail it was a straight-forward "yup, that's repairable, it'll take about 15 minutes"

Seemed to have no concerns ref the safety of such a repair and I really don't believe they would have repaired it if they did. Saved me at least 130 quid so I'm happy

 

[John Ware]

So long as it's not within a certain distance of the shoulder (can't remember the distance), it's often repairable.

 

[channella]

John, I'm not saying that you or anybody else shouldn't have your punctures plugged if you want to. Just sharing what I do that's all. My understanding is that sidewall damage is worse than a puncture in the tread, so perhaps the location as well as severity needs to be considered if going for a repair.

However, my philosophy is simply that the risk I might expose my car to at least, and the lives of myself , any passenger and potentially another road user are worth more than a new tyre or two.

As to technical reasons, my own view is that the basic structure of the tyre is now likely to be damaged and the integrity of the structure compromised.

 

[burrow01]

Hi,

There is a BSI standard for tyre repairs which outlines what can and cannot be repaired - distance from sidewalls, size of puncture etc, so repair establishments will be working within these rules. It also states (I think..) that Z rated motorcycle tyres cannot be repaired, which may be where some of the confusion with regard to Z rated car tyre repairs originates

Pete

 

[John Ware]

Not a problem, Andrew. I have a repaired tyre on the back of my 996 (although it's about due for replacement anyway) which had a nail right through the middle. If it were anywhere close to the shoulder or had damaged the sidewall, the tyre and its' pair on the same axle would have been changed.

 

[JCB..]

ORIGINAL: boxster27

John, I'm not saying that you or anybody else shouldn't have your punctures plugged if you want to. Just sharing what I do that's all. My understanding is that sidewall damage is worse than a puncture in the tread, so perhaps the location as well as severity needs to be considered if going for a repair.

However, my philosophy is simply that the risk I might expose my car to at least, and the lives of myself , any passenger and potentially another road user are worth more than a new tyre or two.

As to technical reasons, my own view is that the basic structure of the tyre is now likely to be damaged and the integrity of the structure compromised.

Andrew

I know your weren't - I just like facts rather than assumptions and I respect that we all have to make our own choices.

I don't think any shop would attempt a sidewall repair.

John..

 

[jleo]

ORIGINAL: burrow01

Hi,

There is a BSI standard for tyre repairs which outlines what can and cannot be repaired - distance from sidewalls, size of puncture etc, so repair establishments will be working within these rules. It also states (I think..) that Z rated motorcycle tyres cannot be repaired, which may be where some of the confusion with regard to Z rated car tyre repairs originates

Pete

Yes, this sounds very similar to what I have heard about distance from the shoulder etc. On a previous visit to Protyre another customer came in with a motorcycle tyre and the guy said "we do not repair motorcycle tyres full stop"