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Question about front splitters on Turbo/S2

RC18B 911 turbo

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Do the 944 turbo cup and 968 turbo S front splitters actually do anything for aerodynamics at all or are they just there to look pretty?
I've just ordered one mostly for the latter reason really but I'm interested none the less.
 
As far as I know no 944 ever came with a splitter from Porsche. They are generally supposed to improve aerodynamics but in the case of ours cars I'd be surprised how fast one would need to drive to feel a significant difference.
 
A splitter will only work in conjunction with other aerodynamic devices. A splitter is intended to be part of an aerodynamic system that induces downforce via ground effect. The idea is that the splitter prevents air from diverting from the front of the car and going underneath the car and instead diverts most of that air around the side of the car. The idea of ground effect is to starve air from underneath the car to create an area of lower pressure under the car therefore sucking it to the ground. I don't think the underbelly pans under the 944 are there for ground effect as they have holes in them. Also the area behind the belly pans are not covered so would destroy any effect a splitter and the belly pans might have. True ground effect cars have perfectly smooth undersides with no holes or vents underneath.

Maybe the factory cup cars did have extra belly pans attached to the underside of the car which didn't appear on production cars in order to create ground effect, but in terms of splitters, I'd be very surprised if they have any effect whatsoever. I've read that some people say they notice more front end stability once they've fitted one, but I think that is just in the mind after they've installed one - like you manage to convince yourself your car runs better after a service or you can feel a power increase once you install a K&N filter. Your seat of the pants is not a very accurate gauge of minor improvements in anything.

Splitters look cool but I wouldn't expect a sudden improvement in handling after fitting it - unless of course you make a completely flat underpan along the entire length of your car.
 
ORIGINAL: sawood12
Maybe the factory cup cars did have extra belly pans attached to the underside of the car which didn't appear on production cars in order to create ground effect

FWIW I never saw a Cup car fitted with such a device and it's not mentioned in the Cup parts list either.

 
They arte indeed supposed to help the front end stability and turn in - especially at higher speeds. I thought I felt a bit of an improvement when I installed mine but as Scott says its a seat of the pants sense of a change - I couldn't provide any concrete evidence to that effect.

But yes they do look cool - just watch for speed bumps, kerbs and potholes...
 
ORIGINAL: RC18B 911 turbo

Do the 944 turbo cup and 968 turbo S front splitters actually do anything for aerodynamics at all or are they just there to look pretty?
I've just ordered one mostly for the latter reason really but I'm interested none the less.


Hi All,

In the Porsche Cup, we used the 3 piece adjustable rear wing and front splitter from the 968 Turbo on the 944 Turbo Cup cars. Loss of the front splitter was very noticeable. Without it, the car would understeer at high speed (at Silverstone GP) for example. Adjustments to the rear wing were noticeable and all 944 Turbo models ran this with the wing adjusted to give maximum down force.

However, on road cars they are probably more about good looks than down force.

Regards,
Andrew
 
I had a feeling it wouldn't make any difference, but it will look good so that's all I'm really bothered about to be honest. I thought I would ask on here just to see find out really. Thanks for all the replies everyone anyway.
 
I f I broke Beaky's splitter (again) I would put on another one (again)

IMHO they have several advantages assuming you get an ESS one or similar:-

They provide an undertray (the original ones aren't easy to get or are expensive IIRC.

The GRP is quite robust and protects the underside of the oil cooler rad (or what ever the rad is on the off side).

It directs air which would go under the car through the lower front grill slats so aids cooling.

If the bonnet was vented I think it would improve handling more. At the moment the more air goes through the rad and out under the engine bay. This being the case it could be argued that it might add to and reduce handling.
 
Agree with John above, the only downside of a splitter is the rear brakes don't get as much cooling
air which can, on track days cause them to overheat.
 
So it does do something other than look good then well that's handy I guess.
I don't think I'll have a problem with brakes overheating due to not really doing many track days if any so that's all good then.
 
Interesting replies, I have noticed an element of floatiness in the front end once into 3 figures - on the continent. I think this could be the German Air or as Andrew and John suggest there is "lift" which a splitter would reduce.
I am certain a GT3 RS does not carry an ornamental splitter, and the physics are the same even if the cars are totally different in layout.
I have one on my list of plans.........a long list admittedly
George

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ORIGINAL: John Sims

They provide an undertray (the original ones aren't easy to get or are expensive IIRC.

The GRP is quite robust and protects the underside of the oil cooler rad (or what ever the rad is on the off side).

That's interesting "¦ how far back does this tray stretch? Does it continue far enough back to cover the space where the two belts are visible? I'd really like to cover the area from the front of the car to there, so that the belts are better protected from gravel, dust etc "¦ but can't seem to find a standard tray that does the job.
 
As standard the Turbo should have two undertrays, one goes under the front bumper (PU) and the other attaches to the back of that and goes back behind the engine.

The S2 only has the front part under the bumper

I'm not sure about the Lux as I've not been under one [&:]
 
As standard, Turbos have 3 undertrays - the batwing built into the bottom of the PU, the 'standard' plastic tray that covers between the radiator and the sump (same as on an S2) and an additional aluminium third tray that goes around the sump (links into tray no. 2 either side) and covers the turbo cross-over pipe.

C
 
Chris, you seem to forget the two lateral undertrays that attach between side members and sills. They are linked to the plastic front wheel wells. I have only seen those on turbos.
 
This is quite interesting it seems that there is a small benefit from the Splitter with it being more stable and that there is a fair amount of undertrays on the car too I only thought there was one lol
 
On the turbo I think there are also the rectangular under floor panels below the seats / footwells as well,
Tony
 

"[In the Porsche Cup, we used the 3 piece adjustable rear wing and front splitter from the 968 Turbo on the 944 Turbo Cup cars. Loss of the front splitter was very noticeable. Without it, the car would understeer at high speed (at Silverstone GP) for example. Adjustments to the rear wing were noticeable and all 944 Turbo models ran this with the wing adjusted to give maximum down force.

However, on road cars they are probably more about good looks than down force.]"...

I agre with you on the front splitter. I had one fitted to my S2 for a whlie + did notice it improved front end grip on high speed T days...

"[the only downside of a splitter is the rear brakes don't get as much cooling
air which can, on track days cause them to overheat]"

Pete i never had any brake fade on my car. + you know how had i used to use the brakes....

For those that might be interested in a front splitter. I "might" have mine for sale...Its a fibreglass one similar to the ESS one...NO cracks or splits, I was VERY carefull with it... Make me an offer i cant refuse + its yours....
Reason for sale,, Just upgraded to a 968....[:D][:D]
 
Cheers to everyone who chipped in about the undertrays. Sorry for the digression. Looks like my Turbo is missing some pieces down there then, which my local specialists hadn't been able to tell me about. I'll look into it further, ta.
 

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