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1990 944 turbo track car. Extensively modified. New motorsport engine by EMC (Pauter rods, low comp pistons, Promax stage 3 kit (re-chip) adjustable boost,Adjustable fuel reg, green injectors, upgraded intercooler,Stage 2 race clutch.Dyno'd at 387hp at 1.4 bar boost.
M030 Suspension, upgraded 993 turbo brakes, Safety devices fully welded cage, Plastic Glass, Fibreglass bonnet and wings.Spare set of wheels with slicks fitted.
In excess of £20,000 spent on this car. Would only need minor mods to race.
That one.
7995
And sounds too cheap is exactly what I was thinking
M030 Suspension, upgraded 993 turbo brakes, Safety devices fully welded cage, Plastic Glass, Fibreglass bonnet and wings.Spare set of wheels with slicks fitted.
In excess of £20,000 spent on this car. Would only need minor mods to race.
That one.
7995
And sounds too cheap is exactly what I was thinking
Diver944
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Good value for money I reckon. It's already had everything done to it to make a pretty lightish track car (except KW suspension to make it a demon track car). The dyno may be a little optimistic in the real world but that was at 1.4bar [
] which is quite high, but it is a freshly rebuilt engine
] which is quite high, but it is a freshly rebuilt engine
Could be I guess - the car next to it is pretty expensive looking as I recall. I still think that people don't spend £20k on a car then sell it for £8k without at least trying for a bit more - unless there is a problem with it or the £20k is a little bit - how shall I put this - from the same measuring stick as the 387bhp power claim...
I'm not saying it seems like a bad buy, but TBH if you had an engine built with custom rods and pistons to lower the compression ratio you wouldn't then buy an off-the-shelf bolt-on tuning package designed for the standard compression ratio, would you? Or would you? I certainly wouldn't. That suggests to me it's half a job.
More than that (and I emphasise that this is in no way a reflection on which tuning package has been used) if a package is designed around a standard engine with standard CR and you go and bolt it up to an engine with a lower CR then the package is not going to work as designed, or it other words it isn't even half a job; it is a pig's ear.
I'm not saying it seems like a bad buy, but TBH if you had an engine built with custom rods and pistons to lower the compression ratio you wouldn't then buy an off-the-shelf bolt-on tuning package designed for the standard compression ratio, would you? Or would you? I certainly wouldn't. That suggests to me it's half a job.
More than that (and I emphasise that this is in no way a reflection on which tuning package has been used) if a package is designed around a standard engine with standard CR and you go and bolt it up to an engine with a lower CR then the package is not going to work as designed, or it other words it isn't even half a job; it is a pig's ear.
DivineE
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[][][]"New motorsport engine by EMC"[][][]
Run quite fast now! If you can find me just one person that has a turbo engine built by them older than 10,000miles which doesn't smoke I promise I will never publicly insult them again... untill that time NEVER EVER buy a car with one of their engines in it!
][][]"New motorsport engine by EMC"[][][] Run quite fast now! If you can find me just one person that has a turbo engine built by them older than 10,000miles which doesn't smoke I promise I will never publicly insult them again... untill that time NEVER EVER buy a car with one of their engines in it!
DivineE
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...Infact better still ring the chap and ask him if it burns any oil. I guarantee his answer will be along the lines of "It's still a very new engine and not bedded in yet, it should stop burning oil once it gets a few more miles on it" this is what Kevin at EMC tells everyone who has had one of his engines. Its only when you see the difference in method between EMC and somewhere professional like Serdi that you actually realise just how unsuitable EMC are to working on something as delicate as the 944's aluminium blocks. Companies like Serdi (and I hear Perfect Bore) are just in another league.
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Ben
Regards,
Ben
Ah you reminded me Ben. We have been through the EMC debate before and I think it's fair to say that some people (notably Big Dave) have EMC built engines they are very happy with. The thing is that they are all NA engines. I believe we agreed EMC and forced induction are definitely not happy bedfellows.
There we have it anyway - my theory is that well-off chap bought 944 Turbo as a dedicated track toy, did some of the right things to it* (it still has crap suspension for a track car and why on earth does it have stripes and stickers all over it?) but made a fatal error in the choice of engine builder and has now decided to cut his losses by outing it at a very attractive price just to be rid.
*Other stuff it is missing: does it mention seats - no. Bushes - no. Anything chassis - wise at all apart from brakes in fact - no (M030 could be original and well past it).
It could well be a standard Turbo with original M030 plus some fibreglass and plastic instead of metal and glass, a roll cage and big reds and with an engine rebuilt by someone with a bad reputation for Turbo rebuilds. Doesn't seem a bargain any more, does it?
edited for a typo that changed the meaning
There we have it anyway - my theory is that well-off chap bought 944 Turbo as a dedicated track toy, did some of the right things to it* (it still has crap suspension for a track car and why on earth does it have stripes and stickers all over it?) but made a fatal error in the choice of engine builder and has now decided to cut his losses by outing it at a very attractive price just to be rid.
*Other stuff it is missing: does it mention seats - no. Bushes - no. Anything chassis - wise at all apart from brakes in fact - no (M030 could be original and well past it).
It could well be a standard Turbo with original M030 plus some fibreglass and plastic instead of metal and glass, a roll cage and big reds and with an engine rebuilt by someone with a bad reputation for Turbo rebuilds. Doesn't seem a bargain any more, does it?
edited for a typo that changed the meaning
Diver944
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I'm thinking the Gallardo may be the slower machine [&:]
No interior, no glass, fibreglass bonnet and wings must bring it down into the 1200kgs and if it has 387bhp it must be a match for the Gallardos 500bhp and 1500kg
It is stickered up for the Porsche Open so I wonder if this was a race project that never quite made it to the track
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