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Rare Clubsport rims? Have you seen these before?

Shark

Shark

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Picked these rims up recently as part of a deal, they are light weight Club Sport wheels, but interestingly
without the little carved design between the spokes.

Must be rare items, I have never seen them before, does anyone have any info on them? I've taken a few pics of the numbers on
the rear..

(all pics are of the same wheel, though I have the full set all in the same condition)

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Thanks for any info in advance!
 
That was my first impression too. Had a bit of machining done and the little scalloped details on the spokes has been lost along the way?
 
No.. the centre caps have just been laid on, they fit 100% flush (I checked with those and with modern plastic caps too). They are the old skool metal caps, I didn't want to push them right in as I only put it there for the pics.. and they are tight to get back out. Chap I got them from didn't skim them. Besides, they would need a lot of skimming to remove the carving. There is no evidence of the design having been there either.
 
The standard finish is polished and lacquerd, to regain that, they get diamond cut and usually lose most of the scallop, if they then need a further refurb, they get primed and painted and lose the rest of it, or get skimmed again - which is seriously bad news.

Standard thoughts are, one skim is ok for road use but probably not for track, 2 skims and they are scrap. They are very light wheels with thin spokes to start with and there are several instances of skimmed ones breaking.
 
They need very little skimming to lose the definition - I have Gulliduckles, same forging.

If they are as made, I'd love to know more about them too.

Can't trace the part no.
 
I see the correct part nunber, although its painted over. In my opinion though, they are dangerous. They were as thin as could be when they were new - paired down to the absolute bone.

Sorry - they look clean but they have been ruined by clowns who didn't know what they were doing.
 
Just looking at the pics again, what is that additional circular "hole" in the stud hole? Is it a trick of the pic or a mark?

What is the offset, looks a bit like 50, but should be 60 for a 9" 944 rim?

Not aware of any other Porsches other than 944 Turbo and 928 that had this style of wheel.

Wondering if they are from some race spec car - thinking 924 possibly?


 
928 362 119 30 is the part number for the scalloped rims as per this ebay advert.. here.

928 362 119 is what's on these wheels too.. (I can zoom in on the 5megapixel original)

Did the 928 get rims like these too? What did the Turbo cup car have?
 

ORIGINAL: A9XXC

Just looking at the pics again, what is that additional circular "hole" in the stud hole? Is it a trick of the pic or a mark?

What is the offset, looks a bit like 50, but should be 60 for a 9" 944 rim?

Not aware of any other Porsches other than 944 Turbo and 928 that had this style of wheel.

Wondering if they are from some race spec car - thinking 924 possibly?
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No idea why that hole is there. Looks like ET50, but I will need to check them again to be sure, maybe the other ones will be more legible.
 
Weren't original CS wheels annodised ?

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=151246003309
 
Did the 928 get rims like these too? What did the Turbo cup car have?
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The 928s had the same rims, the 944 turbo cups had unique teles.

I've also never seen them without the moulding, so would assume there's something wrong there.
 
Just found a set on ebay (completed listings) with no scalloping either..

here

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£375, no bids though (not bothered about the value myself, they didn't cost me anything)
 
If the part no is as you say, then I would want to see one stripped back to metal to measure the spoke thickness with no paint. Skimmed ones have a known problem.

It could be that the PO just wanted the scalloping filling and then painting for looks, but I suspect thay have been skimmed and the paint makes up to be flush with the caps, either way, I'd want to find out.
 
I've spoken to the owner of them - they have been skimmed once and the latest refurb filled and painted them - as is not uncommon.
 
I used to own a second set of these CS rims for mine, sold them on several years ago now. They were also missing the scallops. A monkey at a tyre fitters damaged one of the rims & it became obvious they had been heavily corroded from brake dust, then refurbed with filler to even out the lumpy spots (rather than remove more metal), and lost the finer details of the face in the process.

My other set (still on the car) are starting to suffer a similar fate, they are quite pitted around the lip. My favourite design of wheel, and very light but as mentioned above, they are reputedly already close to their structural limit (it Fuchs made them as light as possible). At least they aren't magnesium, that would be even harder to look after :)
 

ORIGINAL: A9XXC

Just looking at the pics again, what is that additional circular "hole" in the stud hole? Is it a trick of the pic or a mark?
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Probably from drilling out a stuck locking wheelnut.

ORIGINAL: A9XXC

Not aware of any other Porsches other than 944 Turbo and 928 that had this style of wheel.
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They were an option on the 964.
 
There is another set for sale that Simon and I have been discussing on the 944 Turbo Facebook page. These were machined and refurbished by Tom Ferguson in the north East and again the detailing has gone and the centre caps sit proud.

We have told him they are scrap (unfortunately) and if used in my opinion there is a good chance of one of the wheels shattering and possibly causing a major accident [:(]

 
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