hi what baby seats can be fitted in the rear of a c2 coupe ?
what make / model & any idea on prices ?
thanks in advance
what make / model & any idea on prices ?
thanks in advance
rear baby seat ?
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ubertub
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Hello Dave,
best to do a quick search for this topic as it's been discussed to death. Basically the conclusion is.... No decent seat fits. All those that do have a terrible safety test result. I've managed to fit a Britax trio which is a decent seat, but I'm not at all happy with the fit and only use it to take the nipper to nursery about 1.5miles...
Yes, I know I should walk!
Unfortunately those that do fit (Mammas and Pappas something or other) get reviews which suggest fatal injury of child in side impact tests... not ideal!
You could always go for the Porsche Prince seat at a premium, but I'm not sure it's even any good.
mik
best to do a quick search for this topic as it's been discussed to death. Basically the conclusion is.... No decent seat fits. All those that do have a terrible safety test result. I've managed to fit a Britax trio which is a decent seat, but I'm not at all happy with the fit and only use it to take the nipper to nursery about 1.5miles...
Yes, I know I should walk!
Unfortunately those that do fit (Mammas and Pappas something or other) get reviews which suggest fatal injury of child in side impact tests... not ideal!
You could always go for the Porsche Prince seat at a premium, but I'm not sure it's even any good.
mik
Dave, in a nutshell, talk to Quick Fit Safety Belts in Stanmore - they will tell you what fits best at the moment.
Re Child Seats (rather than baby seats) the way to get the seat to fit securely to have an additonal fixed belt fitted rather than use the inertia belt. QFSB originally fitted a Mamas and Papas Sicura (which is no longer available) for my two year old - no problem with fit at all. Now five years old, my daughter is sitting in a Maxi Cosi Rodi. This isn't a great fit, but was the recommendation at the time.
Re Child Seats (rather than baby seats) the way to get the seat to fit securely to have an additonal fixed belt fitted rather than use the inertia belt. QFSB originally fitted a Mamas and Papas Sicura (which is no longer available) for my two year old - no problem with fit at all. Now five years old, my daughter is sitting in a Maxi Cosi Rodi. This isn't a great fit, but was the recommendation at the time.
I spent ages finding the correct seat and as said no seat is perfect, however, the concord ultimax seems to do the trick.
This works for group 0 & 1 so should be ideal. I am quite happy with it although I doubt my little girl will be sitting in it when she is 4 years old. There is some overlap when placed on the rear seat and due to possible easy access to the seatbelt release button whilst sitting in the seat, I have had to attach the seat belt to the other side. (not unusual I understand). Hope this makes sense.
You can see details below.
http://shop.babyworld.co.uk/DisplayDetail.aspx?prodid=1279
This works for group 0 & 1 so should be ideal. I am quite happy with it although I doubt my little girl will be sitting in it when she is 4 years old. There is some overlap when placed on the rear seat and due to possible easy access to the seatbelt release button whilst sitting in the seat, I have had to attach the seat belt to the other side. (not unusual I understand). Hope this makes sense.
You can see details below.
http://shop.babyworld.co.uk/DisplayDetail.aspx?prodid=1279
Mik, the fixed belt is attached to the current seat belt fixings in the rear. One part is fixed so it that it emerges from underneath the inertia belt at the rear of the car, and the lower part of this belt fixes to the seat in the same place as the interia belt's lower fixing. The part of the fixed belt that has the release mechanism is fitted to the seat where the neighbouring release mechanism is fitted for the inertia belt. The fixed belt is fully adjustable.
Having re-read this, it doesn't sound that clear! - happy to take some pics if you are interested.
Having re-read this, it doesn't sound that clear! - happy to take some pics if you are interested.
ubertub
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Thanks Shane. I think i've understood what you mean. I have just been to Halfrauds [sic] to see about a better fitting seat. The Recarro Sport (1-12 yrs) fits quite well. but as usual the seatbelt socket (female if you like) end is too long to pull the baby/child seat tight back into the car seat. Additionally, the baby/child seat has a 'clip' for the top of the seatbelt at the top corner of the seat which is better than most lower clips. The issue I had with the Recarro was that the Porsche seatbelt could not pull the babyseat tight enough into the seat (have i said this already?) and your suggestion of a static, fixed belt with a shorter female end might just provide a good solution.
Unfortunately my local Kwik Fit staff could not grasp what I was asking of them... so I'm a bit stuck as to how to provide a fixed belt.
{/rant over}
mik
Unfortunately my local Kwik Fit staff could not grasp what I was asking of them... so I'm a bit stuck as to how to provide a fixed belt.
{/rant over}
mik
Mik, I think an additional female part on a flexible strap in the neighbouring seat (rather than the factory fitted female part which is on the end of a solid fitting) would do the trick.
Sounds like a gynaecology exam!
Sounds like a gynaecology exam!
Phil, it is the Sicura I have for my two year old son .... see above re the seperate fixed belt.
Alpine
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Hi Shane
thanks for that. I have read your post again and I think I understand.
do you think I would need to take my car to QFB to have this fitted, or do you think they could send the belts to me and I could fit myself. They are quite a long way away from me "up north". They might remember your car, if I mention your name? Do you recall who you dealt with there?
thanks for that. I have read your post again and I think I understand.
do you think I would need to take my car to QFB to have this fitted, or do you think they could send the belts to me and I could fit myself. They are quite a long way away from me "up north". They might remember your car, if I mention your name? Do you recall who you dealt with there?
Phil, apologies for the delay (have been on hols) but it looks as though you have an answer.
FYI, I didn't buy an extension to the intertia best as QFSB recommended I go down the fixed belt route. Re them remembering me/my car, it has been 4 years since I had mine fitted so I very much doubt they would remember me. I guess they would send the belt, but I can't remember who I dealt with.
FYI, I didn't buy an extension to the intertia best as QFSB recommended I go down the fixed belt route. Re them remembering me/my car, it has been 4 years since I had mine fitted so I very much doubt they would remember me. I guess they would send the belt, but I can't remember who I dealt with.
ubertub
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Bit of progress on child seat in 993.
I've finally fitted one my missus will let our daughter sit in!
It's a Recaro Young Sport and is adjustable to suit ages 9months to 12 years...
http://www.elitecarseats.com/Recaro-Young-Sport.pro
On all seats I've tried... and there are many... the two biggest problems were, A) the angle at which the top of the seatbelt exits the seat was not in line with the angle at which the seatbelt exits the parcel shelf, and; B) The seatmelt buckle connector/ female bit was too long to pull the seat back into the car sufficiently for my wife's scrutiny.
The Recaro Sport has a seatbelt clip very high up on the side... ideal for the position of the parcel shelf belt in the 993. But I was stillnot happy with the movement allowed by the inertia belt.... so I bought a fixed belt from Minisport for £18 and removed the inertia belt from the Porsche. I has to re-use the seatbelt guide bar from the inertia belt as the fixed belt is 50mm closer to the firewall (the inertia belt exits from the top of the inertia real- the fixed belt is fixed directly to the firewall/ parcel shelf).
The new fixed belt came with a shorter buckle end, all of which allowed a very secure fixing.
It was a bit of a faf and not very easy as I'm a big fatty and there's not a lot of room behind the front seats... but well worth it.
I know it's not a cheap seat but it's a damned sight cheaper than buying a new child. I recall a Which? review was concerned with side impact on some Mamas and Papas seats... might be worth a check.
I've got some fhotos of the process if anyone needs more detail.
cheers
mik
I've finally fitted one my missus will let our daughter sit in!
It's a Recaro Young Sport and is adjustable to suit ages 9months to 12 years...
http://www.elitecarseats.com/Recaro-Young-Sport.pro
On all seats I've tried... and there are many... the two biggest problems were, A) the angle at which the top of the seatbelt exits the seat was not in line with the angle at which the seatbelt exits the parcel shelf, and; B) The seatmelt buckle connector/ female bit was too long to pull the seat back into the car sufficiently for my wife's scrutiny.
The Recaro Sport has a seatbelt clip very high up on the side... ideal for the position of the parcel shelf belt in the 993. But I was stillnot happy with the movement allowed by the inertia belt.... so I bought a fixed belt from Minisport for £18 and removed the inertia belt from the Porsche. I has to re-use the seatbelt guide bar from the inertia belt as the fixed belt is 50mm closer to the firewall (the inertia belt exits from the top of the inertia real- the fixed belt is fixed directly to the firewall/ parcel shelf).
The new fixed belt came with a shorter buckle end, all of which allowed a very secure fixing.
It was a bit of a faf and not very easy as I'm a big fatty and there's not a lot of room behind the front seats... but well worth it.
I know it's not a cheap seat but it's a damned sight cheaper than buying a new child. I recall a Which? review was concerned with side impact on some Mamas and Papas seats... might be worth a check.
I've got some fhotos of the process if anyone needs more detail.
cheers
mik
Heh heh, I am glad you have got it sorted Mik ... and the Mrs is happy!
Hi Mik,
I've been very interested to read the posts. I managed to track down a porsche prince seat but I'm not 100% about it so if you could send me some pictures and links it would be a real help.
P
I've been very interested to read the posts. I managed to track down a porsche prince seat but I'm not 100% about it so if you could send me some pictures and links it would be a real help.
P
ubertub
New member
Seat available here... or at Halfrauds.
http://www.babys-mart.co.uk/itemdetl.php/itemprcd/Recaro_Young_Sport
Fixed belt was from MiniSport but I thinkKwikFit can supply.
It's a faf, I won't kid you... but better than selling the 993 and buying a Passat!
I'll post some pics when I find them...
Cheers
mik
http://www.babys-mart.co.uk/itemdetl.php/itemprcd/Recaro_Young_Sport
Fixed belt was from MiniSport but I thinkKwikFit can supply.
It's a faf, I won't kid you... but better than selling the 993 and buying a Passat!
I'll post some pics when I find them...
Cheers
mik
That's very kind, thanks.
I'll look out for the pics
I'll look out for the pics
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