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Rear seat belts. Anyone fitted them?

Dico

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Dico again!

When I was on the lookout for another sportscar I informed Mrs Dico the 44 was a 4 seater [:D]. I knew the rear seats were small but would easily acomodate my 3 year old lad. What I wasn't aware of is the fact they (or at least mine) don't have seat belts in the back. I was hoping I could fit a booster seat.
Any ideas if i can install a belt (at least one)? Mine is a single large seat, not the bi-folding type unfortunately, which may have been easier.

Ta again
 
Lap belts are easy to fit as the threads for the bolts are already in the car but to fit proper inertia belts you will need to weld some brackets in the boot area to hold the retracting part of the seat belt.
 
Standard on the S2 (and later turbos) as by that time (1989-1990??) they were mandatory by law.
 
ORIGINAL: random hero

Lap belts are easy to fit as the threads for the bolts are already in the car

Will that apply to my early turbo model too hero? (one big seat rather than two on the later models) I don't really fancy welding brackets in.

Hmm, I would need a proper childs seat as opposed to a booster seat if I can fit lap belts relatively easily. Is there room for a normal childs seat in the rear does anyone know?
 
Hi Dico

I have a set of original lap belts I bought to retrofit in my 86 Lux but never got round to it before I sold it and bought my Turbo if you want I 'll dig them out for you I can't remember how much I gave for them right now but if you want them they will be the right price

Wil
 
I am guessing your belts were removed or the car was too early to have them mandatory fitted. Later coupes have full inertia reel three point belts in the rear. The brackets will be there so it's just a case of sourcing the belts.

This is a rubbish website http://www.quickfitsbs.com/ but Quickfit Safety Belts have helped out other 944 guys in the past who haven't even had mounting points
 
Cheers Will, thats a great help. Just let me know.

I'm off to check I have mounting points. Wheres my torch?
 
ORIGINAL: Dico

ORIGINAL: random hero

Lap belts are easy to fit as the threads for the bolts are already in the car

Will that apply to my early turbo model too hero? (one big seat rather than two on the later models) I don't really fancy welding brackets in.
They should do as my 83 lux had the one piece seat with the threads underneath.
 
Hold fire Will. I've just had a quick look by torchlight. There are two small threaded lugs, one on each side of the car under the boot carpet. But I don't quite get how a lap belt would work at lap level. The only place it could possibly go (where the seat folds in half) would mean it would be far too high across the body.
I think I need to meet some of you chaps and your cars so I can weigh the situation up.
Anyone in the Manchester/Lancashire region fancy a sunday pub lunch?
I've had a look in the meet section for my area but there dosen't seem to be much happening.

I could also then trial fit your heater relay to rule that out of the Knackered heater equation [:D]
 
Thanks for the link.
I seem to have the top mount in that picture. There is currently a big screw in that position. I'll have to strip the interior back to see if I have the other two mounting points hidden under the trim. The seat apears to be glued in at the front bottom edge. I'll have a look when its daylight, and not raining!
 
Paul,

944 seat squab is glued in. No screws used at all. Replace the seat using an aerosol adhesive is the way I've found is best.

Cheers,
 
Your car will have the threads under the seats,next to the seat where the bolts go through the carpet and on the c pillars where there is a big black plastic screw with a phillips head. The only one you wont have is the ones on the rear quarters which will need welding in and also the boot side carpet will need to be changed. I dont know what the small lugs on the boot loor are for but they are nothing to do with the rear seat belts !!
 
Thread resurection

ORIGINAL: random hero

to fit proper inertia belts you will need to weld some brackets in the boot area to hold the retracting part of the seat belt.

Hmm, for some reason I chose to not to listen to this bit of advice, and ended up buying these -
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PORSCHE-944-S2-LUX-TURBO-3-POINT-REAR-SEATBELTS_W0QQitemZ220193977646QQihZ012QQcategoryZ10408QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


I bought them a good while back and have only just got round to looking at them properly. As ever, I've fallen at the first hurdle. Lets have it right, it would be pretty boring if everything went to plan! [8|]
Anyway, before I strip the rear interior out does anyone know where I can locate the exact position so to weld the bracket that will hold the retracting part of the belt, better still, any pics?
 
I don't have 'em in my 1983 car obviously.

A 3 year old can sit in the back seat without being restrained at all if no seat belts are fitted. The child is not allowed to use a lap belt.
 
Thanks for the reply. I wasn't sure on the rules, mines an 86 model.
I did think of the easy option - i.e. lap belts, but wasn't aware children couldn't use them.
Fortunately for Sam he's the most precious thing in my life so I won't be driving him anywere unrestrained. And Mrs Dico is fed up of squashing herself in the back, these women, I don't know! [;)]
 
Dont forget you will also need to change the carpet the runs round the side of the boot down to the rear seat as it has a hump to allow for the seat belt and an outlet for the belt its self
 

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