Red Master Key?
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leesweeney
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I imagine so, my 1997 'S' has the red master key and a mate of mine's turbo, which I think is a 95 car has a red master key so I guess you probably should Local independant or OPC should help though and I know you can get them retrospectively (I know someone who did).
2 owner car from 95 sounds promising!
38F3E1
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No it's not part of a PA2000 alarm (or PA1000 either). The PA1000 and PA2000 alarms have no little part to insert into the dash. They work directly from the buttons on the fob.
What you are describing sounds like the previous Porsche system which was fitted to the 964. This was a CAT 2 immobiliser only which has a little piece you insert into the slot in dash or consol.
So the car could have just an immobiliser (Porsche or aftermarket) or maybe an immobiliser plus a third party alarm (as there would be no need to have the slot with a PA1000 or PA2000 alarm).
Ian.
What you are describing sounds like the previous Porsche system which was fitted to the 964. This was a CAT 2 immobiliser only which has a little piece you insert into the slot in dash or consol.
So the car could have just an immobiliser (Porsche or aftermarket) or maybe an immobiliser plus a third party alarm (as there would be no need to have the slot with a PA1000 or PA2000 alarm).
Ian.
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Ah, OK this is beginning to fall into place
I think the early 993s got the old system from the 964 so I stand corrected on my earlier post.
my cab has the little dongle tag thing too plus a switch in the centre bottom row of the console in front of the handbreak. I believe this switch disables the microwave sensors for the alarm mounted in the corners of the dash as it also allows you to lock the car without the roof auto closing.
My fob only has one button and looks fairly generic, there is also no mention of an alarm system in my option codes. So I wonder if the dealers were retro fitting their own systems back then?
Harvey, are you going to buy the car???
I think the early 993s got the old system from the 964 so I stand corrected on my earlier post.
my cab has the little dongle tag thing too plus a switch in the centre bottom row of the console in front of the handbreak. I believe this switch disables the microwave sensors for the alarm mounted in the corners of the dash as it also allows you to lock the car without the roof auto closing.
My fob only has one button and looks fairly generic, there is also no mention of an alarm system in my option codes. So I wonder if the dealers were retro fitting their own systems back then?
Harvey, are you going to buy the car???
Michael Williams
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the 1000 system has a red key. you will not need it unless you loose both regular keys(!!) OR have to do some resetting (read the manual). Changing the "chip" and the two zappers is not expensive. I was going down this route with my car and out of the blue the red key was found by the original owner. It is a straighforward job for a good shop.
Harvey. You have a problem that i recently have had to contend with. Hope this helps:
A 1995 car may well have the PA100 alarm system (single button handsets, marked PA100) AND the immobiliser dongle (as with my TT). To get a replacement red master, you either have to replace or reprogramme your exsiting alarm control unit. Both of these options are still available from Hamilton & Palmer (who made and supplied them) at a very reasonable price. The job istelf is very straightforward as the unit (located under the drivers seat) simply plugs in to the cars wiring loom. No need to go to an OPC / specialist, I would say.
H&P are very friendly to deal with and provide a very prompt service. They told me that this system has proved very reliable in practice, but a fair few of us are coming to them to sort out the ubiquitous missing-red-master problem!!
good luck
tim
A 1995 car may well have the PA100 alarm system (single button handsets, marked PA100) AND the immobiliser dongle (as with my TT). To get a replacement red master, you either have to replace or reprogramme your exsiting alarm control unit. Both of these options are still available from Hamilton & Palmer (who made and supplied them) at a very reasonable price. The job istelf is very straightforward as the unit (located under the drivers seat) simply plugs in to the cars wiring loom. No need to go to an OPC / specialist, I would say.
H&P are very friendly to deal with and provide a very prompt service. They told me that this system has proved very reliable in practice, but a fair few of us are coming to them to sort out the ubiquitous missing-red-master problem!!
good luck
tim
My car had three previous owners and came with two black keys but no red master. I was not aware that I needed one until some time after I bought it and so traced the previous owners and found that the first owner, a very helpful chap who had driven the vast majoity of the car's mileage, still had it at home in the drawer. A very useful exercise - not only had I found the red key but I had also established the car's full history, which I found reassuring. It almost seemed too good to be true but it didn't take a lot of effort. I had already spoken to Hamilton and Palmer who were very helpful and would have talked me through the process of getting the new master key if I had not tracked it down.
FYI - I replaced the control unit on my car this afternoon - and it was very easy. Pictures soon on www.911uk.com. Programming the new keys was also very simple. The only mildly hard bit was removing the control unit and the central locking controller that sits on top of it. These are both stuck down with a double sided foam sticky tape. Easiest way was to first remove the Nokia amp, then insert a blunt kitchen knife to prize the tape apart.
Best option of all though has to be to track down the previous owner who still has it!!!
Best option of all though has to be to track down the previous owner who still has it!!!
38F3E1
PCGB Member
But why unless the PA1000 was retro-fitted at a later date? I can't believe this is how it would have come supplied from an OPC because the PA1000 system contains an immobiliser plus positive locking plus alarm therefore the dongle immobiliser would be redundant.
Unless you really mean PA100 rather than PA1000 and we are talking about different systems.
Ian.
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