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Replacing Brake Pipes, How, Where - Help.

tinsoldier

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Morning,

My 944 Lux has failed its MOT on leaking brake pipes

Nearside Front
Nearside Rear
Offside Rear
Rear (Over Propshaft)
Central

I am under the impression that copper brake pipes cannot be used on the 944 (Taken from the Haynes Manual)

If this is the case then I assume they have to be steel.
Can these be made to measure, or are the sold pre made? It feels like its going to be expensive.

Beginning to poop myself that I can't get this thing on the road.
 
IIRC the pipes do come premade from Porsche but cost over £100, they then require the axle to the dropped which is mucho moneys.

I had mine replaced at a local place, they used flexi piping over the rear axle (heh I think...) and copper for the rest of the journey.

Don't know why you couldn't use copper, i've never heard of this and hope it isn't true! [:)]

P.S It cost me 2.5 hours labour + 3 brake pipes - £132 in all.
 
Guys,

These are brake pipes, not unobtanium nor are they difficult! People have been replacing brake pipes on cars since cars started to be made!

Buy a roll of kunifer brake pipe. (Around £5 for 20m). Buy a flaring tool. (£20 if you buy a fancy one). If you are feeling really flush, spend a fiver on a bag of brake-pipe-ends and another fiver on some brake pipe spanners. All available from your friendly local motor factor (and maybe even from Halfords.) Then jack the car up, unscrew the old pipes, measure them, cut a length of new pipe to fit with a small hacksaw, pinch the ends from the old pipe, flare the ends of the new pipe, bolt the new pipe in (just like running a length of cable and no harder), fill with new fluid and bleed, wash your hands and have a beer.

I sometimes swear there is a consortium of people on here deliberately trying to make easy jobs look hard!


Oli.
 
I suspect it could be something to do with the Haynes Book of Lies being probably one of the worst I have seen for stating jobs need special tools and procedures and leaving you totally in the dark. Oh... and quoting old procedures from the Porsche manual, but of course not being subject to the technical bulletins...

Obviously I never read as far as the "brakes" section, because it is the first I have heard of the brake pipes being anything special. I know that some on my old car were kunifer tube, and that stopped ok when the guy behind me didn't[:'(]
 
My brake pipes were replaced all round last year, plus fluid change, for about £250 including parts, labour and vat I think, might have been less but it was in with other jobs as well so hard to remember.

Certainly no suggestion that the rear axle needed dropping!
 
I sometimes swear there is a consortium of people on here deliberately trying to make easy jobs look hard!

There is - your clock replacement article qualified you to join it! [:D][:D][:D]
 
ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty

My brake pipes were replaced all round last year, plus fluid change, for about £250 including parts, labour and vat I think, might have been less but it was in with other jobs as well so hard to remember.

Certainly no suggestion that the rear axle needed dropping!

Definately need to drop it if using Porsche pipes.

Rich
 
My car has only ever failed one MOT for brake pipes - the one that hooks over the transaxel. I got the mechanic to route the pipe under the transaxel. If you ever need to drop the transaxel in the future you can replace this run of pipe very cheaply. Having said that, for someone who knows what they are doing they can drop and re-install a transaxel in about 30 minutes so is not a huge job anyway.

As Oli has said - these are just brake pipes and should be treated the same as with any other car. There are no special requirements for a 944, no special rare and expensvie material. Just whatever you'd do with a Ford Focus.
 
my car has never had an MOT advisory on brake pipes, yet I was advised by an indie that I needed the whole lot replacing, which included the transaxel dropping so 10 hours labour and £1k thanks.

I took a second opinion from another indie, and was told that they don't look that bad. He has rubbed them all down and re-powder coated them, and none of them need changing at all.
 
The Haynes 944 manual is US based & the US doesn't permit copper piping at all, very much a bone of contention as most of the sceptics think they'll fail instantly[8|]
Mine has replacements made from copper on the rear, done by me & various others in kunifer by Northways. Easily done at home with a 15 quid flaring tool. Best to get some shiny new brass unions as well, they are M10 x 1.
 

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