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mok924lux

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Apologies, for what is most likely an often repeated request, but I have just purchased a rotted 964 for restoration.
Being a novice to restoration, can anyone point me in the direction of a "guide" or project plan.

I've tried a basic search in 964 section but (perhaps due to operator error) have found no entries.

Thank you in advance.

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Your very brave!!!

How rotten is rotten??? It all depends on how bad it is!!!!

I would take for mot to assess the most urgent problems then look at the more cosmetic stuff. An oil change and plugs would also be a good start also valve clearances.

Post some pics of the car and the problem areas.


Tim
 

photo's of the bad bits please. lots of people on here have done major restorations so you'll not be short of help.
 
Thank you for the quick responses.
I will upload a few photos but I was really looking for the correct way to undertake a restoration.

The car hasn't moved under it's own power for 4+ years. I thus expect this to take a long time.
Are there any books anyone can recommend?

Many thanks in advance.


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http://www.bentleypublishers.com/porsche/repair-information/porsche-911-964-enthus-companion.html

This is a great book. Defo worth the money.

Tim
 
Hi

Nice pics!!! And an interesting project would love to do it myself!

It looks like a full restoration is required. I would get a leak down test done to assess engine condition. Then change all fluids and crank over by hand. Disconnect the coils and then turn over to see oil pressure before trying to start.

It's going to need going throughly ie brakes,bushes,suspension,gearbox,clutch inc slave cylinders etc plus it looks like a full respray!
The 964 is fairly straightforward to work on in my opinion (but I am a mechanical engineer). Parts are quite expensive though and you can soon rack up thousands. The rear lights are about 750 for a set! And engine tin about the same sort of price. Keep us posted how your getting on with it

Tim

 
Hi,

I concur with the rest of the replies however, I myself have taken a similar project on about 12 months ago. I am not mechanic by trade and do everything in my spare time.
Best to find a Porsche specialist to look over the car and basically spend a few hours labour going over everything to provide a list of what needs doing. I had my own list but by doing this you find out a few more issues that I missed.
My suggestion is stabilise the body work first (wouldn't bother with a professional re-spray straight away) and get the car mechanically in a working condition. As everyone has already said parts can be expensive but they don't have to be. let's be honest you don't have to always buy new. Rear light clusters for example you can always get a good set from auction web sites (not to name the obvious) they have been a couple of sets recently for around £200 - £300. I have done has much DIY as possible such has, full brake restoration, replacing the engine tin, suspension (get a specialist to do the alignment), seals and rubber replacement etc, etc. Anything I can get good instructions on. Books are good for reference but in my opinion you cannot get any better than personal accounts with pictures of individuals fixing the issues themselves.

Here are a couple of web sites to help you

http://p-car.com/ (the diy section is great)
http://rennlist.com/forums/964-forum-59/
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-964-993-technical-forum/

I have found someone somewhere has always had the same problem and posted loads of information to help.

This is my second restoration, first being a 928. The 964 is a little easier to work on. the main factor is time and effort. Good look and enjoy get to know the car.

 
What a great project.
There have been a few posters who've taken on projects like this.
There has also been a competition, won by OPC Sutton Coldfield who restored a 964 Coupe with pictures.
http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=771320
Also there's a new competition and Premier Panel Skills 01252 719699 have taken on restoring a 964 Targa. A brief article about it is in my column in the next PP arriving soon.
They both might be able to help you in how to approach such a task.
Personally I'd do what's been suggested, check the condition of the engine and clutch and then set about the body. You'll need to find out the causes of the rot and fix those as well. Rear quarter lights suffer from muck thrown up by the rear tyres which holds moisture each time it gets wet.
Check for mice infestation as they seem to like wire insulation.
It's amazing what a vacuum and a pressure washer can achieve.
Certain things like engine tinware are expensive and unavoidable if needing replacement. Other things can be repaired like the heat shield behind the rear bumper. It's amazing what a few rolls of aluminium tape tape can achieve.
Get a good relationship going with the parts man at your local OPC and you may find you'll get more than the 10% members discount.
Best of luck and keep us updated. Could you share what you paid for it?
 
Matthew,

My experience of the 964 is it has not got to the depth of decay that the torsion bar cars have. An average pre 74 car was a pure basket case 20 years ago, an average pre '89 car has now reached a poor state in areas of B-Post, sills, A-pillars, Scuttle front & rear, wings, front floor, fuel tank, rear light area, sometimes the roof rails.

What you seem to have is a lovely original Coupe that is in need of a tidy up. Anything you spend on it within reason will not be lost - the 964 Coupe is appreciating as the good ones get fewer.

The areas you will need to attend to are the Windscreen surround, (shell flex abrades the paint over decades and rust starts) sills behind the covers but nothing compared to a 3.2 carrera, scuttle where the wing meets it and down the inner wing top edge (remove wing to see) headlamp bowl area of front wing, tail-light area of rear quarter, engine tin, (try RedTek and speak to Roger for Fiberglass tins as opposed to parting with £1000 for new originals which will go the same way), rear bumper mount area may be corroded.

On top of that you have all the brake pipes, fuel lines, brackets, clips and rubbers etc.

Lots of it can be reused if you are careful.

They are generally built very nicely for DIY repairs.

Loads of specialists will rob you because its an appreciating car.

Good luck with it
George
944t / 964




 
Hi George,
thanks for the link to RedTek, they have some excellent videos on engine rebuilds and more.
I've put a note in our Weblink section of the Tech Articles FAQ
 
thanks for the link to RedTek,

no problem, It pains me to see people I don't even know spending a fortune on cheapo tin at OPC's when there is a specialist in England who makes a better product for less, the Redtek parts should cost more [8|]

Plus, I learned of them on the forum in the past

George

 

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