RETRO FITTING AIR CONDITIONING

[sebrussellsmith]

I keep on revisiting this and as I am using my car as a daily driver and with the increased heat in the city and the need to arrive at meetings looking refreshed and not like a drowned rat I need some advice.
Is it worth fitting airconditioning and has anyone had experience doing it and where?
What sort of costs are we talking about?
Someone suggested selling the 993 and getting a car with aircon but I really dont want to part with it.
Any thoughts appreciated.
Seb

 

[harry]

Sell the 993 and buy 993 with aircon that works []

 

[szklarek]

I've looked previously at getting A/C fitted to other vehicles and the cost has usually been prohibitive. So the previous poster's advice makes sense.

Regards
Anton

 

[clyde]

I'm sure I've seen this question asked in at least one Porsche magazine over the years, albeit not for a 993 but it was horrendously expensive to the point that the reply didn't even give ball-park figures. I would guess that there's a good couple of grands worth of (new) parts then you have to fit them, with everything going from the back to the front and back again.

I think there's only two answers, either completely douse yourself in Sure before driving or as Harry says, sell it and buy a 993 with working aircon.

 

[sebrussellsmith]

ORIGINAL: clyde


I'm sure I've seen this question asked in at least one Porsche magazine over the years, albeit not for a 993 but it was horrendously expensive to the point that the reply didn't even give ball-park figures. I would guess that there's a good couple of grands worth of (new) parts then you have to fit them, with everything going from the back to the front and back again.

I think there's only two answers, either completely douse yourself in Sure before driving or as Harry says, sell it and buy a 993 with working aircon.

Yes - I just found the original quote - 1900+ vat

 

[harry]

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Yes - I just found the original quote - 1900+ vat
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If that was when the car was new, the cost would be more now I fear as parts for 993 have gone up in price + VAT is 20%

 

[John Maddox]

Not only is the cost prohibitive but the amount of dismantling required to fit everything and re-assemble would be a major concern to me.

When I bought my 993 the air-con only worked for one weekend as they assumed it only needed re-gassing. Luckily I had experience of aircon repairs and insisted it was written in to my purchase agreement that I chose this car over others because it had air-con.

It cost them about £3k to fix it under warranty!! I also had to ensure they understood I would not accept a poorly re-assembled car and I expected it to be as rattle free as it was before.

I was lucky they did a good job and have not had any problems.

 

[T911UK]

CCU and compressor will cost you £2000 on their own!!

 

[sebrussellsmith]

ORIGINAL: T911UK

CCU and compressor will cost you £2000 on their own!!

Thanks for your note. The quote I have is £1900 + VAT parts and labour

 

[John Maddox]

Proceed with caution is all I would say. I can't see how it could be done for that price. It took 2 days to change the evaporator and condenser in mine.

 

[T911UK]

ORIGINAL: sebrussellsmith

ORIGINAL: T911UK

CCU and compressor will cost you £2000 on their own!!

Thanks for your note. The quote I have is £1900 + VAT parts and labour

Used parts maybe, but dont do it!

 

[WXW611]

Have a look at this :-http://www.jackals-forge.com/

 

[Mark Elder]

I suggest it might be a bad idea to click the link above - I might be wrong but it's a bit odd that the poster joined the forum 2.5 years ago but only now makes a first posting - and it is a simple link to a web site nothing to do with air conditioning 993s. Looks like their computer may have been taken over by a zombie or whatever it is that takes over computers.[8|]

 

[szklarek]

Perhaps 'admin' should remove the posting or at least check it out?

Regards
Anton

 

[formulae]

Jackals forge is an excellent site, and a must for all 993 DIY fans.
There is a link on the home page on how to remove air con. great photos and gives a good insight to all the bits and pieces of the a/c system

http://www.jackals-forge.com/

as regards fitting air con, i agree with others , buy a 993 with 'working air con'
I did this, but still had to replace the passenger sill a/c pipes as one of them had a pinpoint leak.

 

[szklarek]

Thanks for the 'heads up' on that website - it would have been a shame for a useful site to have been blocked.

Regards
Anton

 

[Porker993]

Agree Jackals Forge is an excellent 993 web site and Jackal is a top bloke who posts on 911uk a lot.

He is currently removing his a/c as I recall !

To reply to the OP

It sounds like the quote you have for £1900 parts plus labour is open ended. Presumably they wouldn't give an actual figure for labour because

a) they don't know how long it will take
b) they don't know cost or availability of parts without doing a lot of research
c) they don't really want the work, because :
d) it's a load of hassle for them with an uncertain outcome - postential rattles, leaks other problems etc, and
e) it just wouldn't make economic sense for an owner to do.

Also I believe the quote of £1900 plus VAT for parts is way off the mark.

So, the advice would be to buy a car with aircon.

 

[Mark Elder]

Apologies to Jackal and his web site then, but if you google Jackal Forge it says "The Jackals Forge - home of award-winning 3d Digital Artist Richard Morris, Alias Wavefront Maya resources, tutorials, information on the Humanbody and Body" - so you can see why I thought it was a bit unrelated to aircon on a 993![8|]