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timbarber

timbarber

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Having missed out on the Autotrack Spa trip last month, I would like to try and go to Spa later in the year. Autotrack have a date in mid-October, but I'm a bit concerned about what the weather might be doing by then. I notice RMA are doing a trip in early September. Does anyone have any experience of their Circuit Club? Are these days well organised and generally safe from the "hot-head" element? Does anyone have any advice that might be useful or tips on where to stay?
 
Tim,

PhilRS and me are doing the 27/9 and Pistenclub has a 2/10 date. I recommend the quality of driving unlike the Autotrack days which I found positively awful. Slow drivers and overtaking only on the left being the main problem. These other events are much better.

http://www.porscheclubfrancorchamps.be/calendrier/calend.htm


Charles
 
Charles

Is the 27/9 day run by the PCF or someone else? Do you know whether they are ATDO or FAEO accredited?
 
Tim - lots of us use RMA. They are about as good as trackday operators get. There are no corporate clients (well, not many), so few mobile chicanes.

I was at Ring and Spa with them in early May for a week. There were c5 964 RSs there and the machinery ranged from a few Caterhams through to an Enzo, an F1 car, a F40, an F40 prototype, classic fezzas, racing 911s.... The list goes on. The driving is generally good, there are no boy racers; this is something to do with it not being cheap and them not being made to feel welcome (see below). At this day they allowed overtaking on either side; they don't do this on UK Circuit Club events but do on Paddock Club (the expensive, pay in advance one). It worked fine.

Graham Clarke, the organiser / owner is a bit of a "character" and you won't forget his briefing, but they do run good days.

James
 
Tim no idea. Just email Fracis Bourget the PCSF secretary if you want to know. He speaks English.

They are very well run days with black flags for ungentlemanly conduct. There will only be a few cars out so you rarely see anyone else. Driving is of the highest standard and they all know the track extemely well so you rarely get held up.

What's more there is a free bar so if it is pishing down you don't have to venture out on track to get your money's worth. Do take the wife to drive you back to the hotel though. ;O)

PhilRS,

Is that a 2.49 lap? Jackie Stewart could take 20secs off that for you! ;O)

Charles
 
Tim,

A couple of things to add to Charles' comment.

I have been a member of PCF for 5-6 years and have done in total ~20 days at Spa with them. PCF is the "sports" chapter of the Porsche Club Belgium, so PCF is a proper Porche Club.

PCF organise two types of track days: PCF Days and "Fun Days".

In my view, Fun Days are unmatched (in comparion to Autotrack, PistenClub and PCGB) for their organisation, driving standards, driving ethos and value for money. PCF Days (not to be confused with Fun Days) might be too crowded, but they represent a great Porsche Fest.

Back to Fun Days.

Organisation: The track is fully marshalled; tuition is always available (freely from genuine experts, at a reasonable cost from a driving school); first 45 mins are systematically dedicated to novices who can follow an instructor showing the line and get a few laps without looking in their mirrors.

Driving standards: Most people know the track very well (the club drives at Spa a total of 6-7 full days a year). All cars on the track are Porsche so there is more homogeneity with respect to speed, braking and height (cf. invisible single seaters). Passing is allowed everywhere on the track, even under braking (cf. video above, which was taken at the PCF Days). Timing of laps is allowed and even welcome (there is a club regularity championship).

Driving ethos: People on the track will range from novices to racing teams out to test. Most people know each other quite well. Silly behavior is simply not tolerated.

Value for money: Full catering is available (i.e. breakfeast, lunch, tea) as well as a proper place to relax (typically one VIP suite).

BTW, I am not trying to recruit anyone. The small number of fairly homogeneous drivers is fairly homogenous cars is also fairly unique!
 
I am booked with RMA for September Spa 2 days - I have not done Spa with them before . They are definitely the best organised and are quite willing to chuck the idiots off the circuit. Book it..............
 
Thanks for the feedback guys - and Phil what a great bit of video footage. Needs to be watched and listened too with the volume up LOUD!
 
Thanks! I will try to post a better quality video later on today. Sound will also improve [;)]
 
Phil

Awesome! Love it. I presume the camera was mounted rather than hand held, but it seems like it's in the front. How did you do that?
 
The camera mount was suction-attached to the windshield (three suction things). There were enough degrees of freedom (and depth of field in the camera) to see the top of the wings. Charles can point you out to the specific camera mount.
 
I have a suction mount with my camera mount too. Now you mention it, I can just see the reflection in the windscreen. And it's use was OK with the organisers?
 
Yes.


ORIGINAL: timbarber

I have a suction mount with my camera mount too.  Now you mention it, I can just see the reflection in the windscreen.  And it's use was OK with the organisers?
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