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Road legal track car -advice needed..

Axl Rose

Axl Rose

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Has anyone got a street legal track car? What are the vital elements in passenger department to pass MOT as a street legal car?
 
Secure seat and E-marked seat belt / harness. The internal door handles must operate too, but thats pretty much it I think.
 
Rear view mirror, a method of recording mileage and speed, a functioning parking brake, road legal lights, indicators, hazard flashers and a horn, seats and belts as noted above - otherwise just a racing car.
 
AFAIK what Simon says is pretty much it. I am in debating this question right now as I have stripped out the inside of the car but need to get it MoT'd before dropping it with my brother for the next stage (reshell with motorsport shell). As far as we can tell you don't need any trim and panels in there despite the fact that the rear quarter panels mount on brackets etc. I still have the sunroof mech and wind deflector + clips such that the sunroof is retained in the car. I will be putting the front carpets and rear floor carpet back in because the car looks pretty gash right now and it always helps to present a neat car. That and the centre console and drivers seat and I intent to MoT like that. It got through before with no rear seat, rear belts and rear load deck carpet with just an odd comment about 1/2 the car missing [:D] My car is insured as a road legal competition car as are of course rally cars so I would have thought anything you see on a rally car must be ok for the MOT.
 
Well following on from what John says what about the heater? ISTR that a road legal car must have a means to demist the windscreen therefore needing a heater and fan. Would this be looked for on MOT test though? Glass windscreen as well of course but starting to move away from interior.
 
I don't intend to go as far as stripping out the heater even if the car would pass MOT without it..plenty of cold days yet to come..brr..
ORIGINAL: Neil Haughey Well following on from what John says what about the heater? ISTR that a road legal car must have a means to demist the windscreen therefore needing a heater and fan. Would this be looked for on MOT test though? Glass windscreen as well of course but starting to move away from interior.
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ORIGINAL: John Sims Rear view mirror, a method of recording mileage and speed, a functioning parking brake, road legal lights, indicators, hazard flashers and a horn, seats and belts as noted above - otherwise just a racing car.
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You don't need a speedo / odo - my Fiesta didn't have one & passed OK. Hazards required for cars later than 1986.
 
You dont need a heater, although in my personal opinion itd be a folly to remove/disconnect it, unless you have to seal the bulkhead. Even then a race car will still have it in order to demist on a wet day. A road car must have a demisting device, as stated above. For an accurate list we would need to know how far you intend to go. You will need two mirrors, but you dont need a rearview mirror (door mirrors will suffice) and you can even run without lights if youre happy to opt for a 'daylight' MOT.
 
ORIGINAL: Axl Rose Has anyone got a street legal track car? What are the vital elements in passenger department to pass MOT as a street legal car?
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Am I the only person who took this to mean: 'I want to be able to still carry a passenger in my track focussed car'? Hence my "seat, belt and passenger door that opens from the inside" reply...
 
I'll put it back on just in case they should be bothered but at this point there's no other use of it than keeping an eye on boot - the boot lid is 100% "tinted"..[8D]
ORIGINAL: John Sims Rear view mirror
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You definitely dont need a rear view mirror, but you do need two mirrors. Its perfectly aceptable to have two door mounted mirrors. If you retain the rear view mirror then you can remove one of the door mirrors.
 
Fortunately i've got 2 buckets and harness'..no problems there..[;)] I spent about 70 miles sleeping in a boot of a road legal track car years ago and it didn't feel too bad at the time..[8D]
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ORIGINAL: Axl Rose Has anyone got a street legal track car? What are the vital elements in passenger department to pass MOT as a street legal car?
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Am  I the only person who took this to mean: 'I want to be able to still carry a passenger in my track focussed car'?  Hence my "seat, belt and passenger door that opens from the inside" reply...
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Harnesses may not be good enough. For an MOT you need an 'E-Marked' harness, which will probably be a 2" four pointer with a seatbelt type buckle. Conversely for protection youll want a 5/6 pointer with 3" webbing and an aircraft type quick release buckle. Non-E-Marked harnesses shouldnt pass an MOT so you have to choose: either retain the seatbelt and use a better harness or remove the standard belts and replace with an acceptable E-Marked harness. Simon
 
I've already removed the standard belts and just fitted E(4) 4-point harness with seatbelt type buckle..used standard mounting points for both, front and rear..the harness i used came out from my '86 Alpine White..although personally i didn't think it was fitted up to standard and rather unsafe (front point were mounted onto bolts that were welded onto the sides of base frame/sliders not chassis!!?!, rear points were joined and bolted through floor using just a bolt and nut!!) it still passed MOT..[:'(]
ORIGINAL: 944 man Harnesses may not be good enough.  For an MOT you need an 'E-Marked' harness, which will probably be a 2" four pointer with a seatbelt type buckle.  Conversely for protection youll want a 5/6 pointer with 3" webbing and an aircraft type quick release buckle.  Non-E-Marked harnesses shouldnt pass an MOT so you have to choose: either retain the seatbelt and use a better harness or remove the standard belts and replace with an acceptable E-Marked harness. Simon
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You dont need a heater, although in my personal opinion itd be a folly to remove/disconnect it, unless you have to seal the bulkhead. Even then a race car will still have it in order to demist on a wet day. A road car must have a demisting device, as stated above.
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So true, have you ever done a cold wet track day with no heater/demister?? Alternative is an electric fan heater designed for the purpose, small, light and removeable on hot days.
I've already removed the standard belts and just fitted E(4) 4-point harness with seatbelt type buckle..used standard mounting points for both, front and rear..the harness i used came out from my '86 Alpine White..although personally i didn't think it was fitted up to standard and rather unsafe (front point were mounted onto bolts that were welded onto the sides of base frame/sliders not chassis!!?!, rear points were joined and bolted through floor using just a bolt and nut!!) it still passed MOT..[:'(]
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Unless you need to use them for a very good reason then try and avoid the 4 point belt buckle types. They are cheap but you get what you pay. You also cant get out of them when upside down!! Use a quick release type harness where all straps release and 3" shoulder straps which spread the load better. For an MOT simply bolt in the old seatbelts - its 15 mins work once a year.
 
ORIGINAL: Hilux
You dont need a heater, although in my personal opinion itd be a folly to remove/disconnect it, unless you have to seal the bulkhead. Even then a race car will still have it in order to demist on a wet day. A road car must have a demisting device, as stated above.
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So true, have you ever done a cold wet track day with no heater/demister?? Alternative is an electric fan heater designed for the purpose, small, light and removeable on hot days.
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....or fit a heated front screen - gets rid of a lot of heater system weight. [;)]
 
You can do that, where a heated type screen is available (they are for a 911, but thats not the best example...), but Id still suggest that you retain the heater, plumbed-in, where ever possible. The increase in weight is neglibible, but the benefit in terms of increased coolant capacity and especially the reserve cooling, far outweighs it. Even if youre having to seal the firewall then Id still retain the unit in place in order that you can demist the car, because small plug-in blowers are about as much use as an asthmatic kitten...
 
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