Rust in floor pans - help

[early 911]

Having never done this, I'm struggling to help a fellow register member with his floor pan problem. Any suggestions?

Suppose he could start off by buying the Haynes restoration book http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1859606121/qid=1142867333/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/202-2964404-2381436

I'm worried about the rust elsewhere . . .

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Phil

I spoke to you last year. Not sure if you remember me?

I bought a 911 E in October 2004. I couldn't
help myself but drive it all that winter. I think I e-mailed you some photos of it and we spoke very briefly.

It has been garaged all this winter and is coming out to play as soon as it
warms up.

To my horror whilst cleaning her one sunny saturday morning 2 weeks ago I
found that the floor pan had rusted through on the passenger side. (she is a left hooker).

I am somewhat a novice to 911 ownership and did not check the floor pan
prior to buying the car and with a great salesman possibly succumbed to
buying the car with inherent problems.

I have sourced the part from Roger Bray Restorations and a friend of mine
has taken the car to his workshop to get her up on a ramp and further
investigate.

In your opinion what is the best course of action for a top job. I have no
intention of ever selling the car and just want piece of mind that this
horrible situation I have found myself in is rectified in a way that does
not affect the car too much and my pocket.

Yours Sincerely

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[Garfield]

Two words...

Nick Moss.

He's just done a pretty good job on my early 911. Nick, if you want to post photo's, feel free !

Garfield

 

[Nick Moss]

I'm worried about the rust elsewhere . . .

I would be too! If there is rust there, it will probably be in the seat pans, parcel shelf and chassis rails []

 

[Guest]

Time for a full assesment by a Porsche specialist, or at least knowledgeable enthusiast: at least then a decent long term plan can be hatched that will hopefully lead to the owner knowing exactly what he's got, and what needs doing when.

As has been said, if you've got rust in the floors (when you often see well rotted cars with reasonable floors) it certainly stands to reason that the tinworm have already enjoyed long term hospitality courtesy of this car.

 

[bernard tester]

Happy to look and give advice!

 

[goddard]

hi,restored my 72' 911 last year you will find that rust in the floor plans is'nt your only place to look, need to look a th A post, striker plates for the doors were the meet the cills,if you have a coupe need to look at the sunroof channels as water ingresses to the rear parcle shelf and rots this and the rear seats.At the front look at the heater intake in the boot area,and one last area jacking points if used get weak over time.Hope this helps Brett

 

[Guest]

In addition to the above, the following were all present in my last 911 before I got going on it:

front fuel tank support area, top of front inner wings, base of windscreen surround (bubbling paint), in addition to sills and jacking points the 'kidney' bowl that closes the rear of the sill plus that part of the rear inner wing (if the outer sills have gone, the 'middle' sill will need repair/replacement), top rear of inner wings where the mud sits, rear of the parcel shelf (pull down the engine sound insulation, and feel / crunch corners of shelf, plus rear lower edges of rear screen surround (bubbling paint). Oh yes, around the area where the rear torsion tube end covers go (underneath where it forms the beginning of the chassis leg, and joins to the floor), and underneath the torsion tube area looking from the middle of the car outwards. Bottom of the rear crossmember: hidden by rear valence?

Still good news: as far as I know, the glass in a 911 rarely rusts, so that's something [8|].

 

[early 911]

For future reference . . ..

http://www.motoringinvestments.com/RestorationServices/theprofessor.htm

 

[912UK]

interesting web site I have heard of them but never got around to looking at the site..

What Wurth Product have they used to get the fatory finish match??

I am just about to do some work on my 65 car in a real pig of an area to get to so the brake lines and the steering rack will have to come out to do a proper repair but worth once done..

 

[Guest]

Good reference, Phil. Be nice if the sunroof theory deals with the original post ....

 

[Guest]

This may also help but will probably bring tears to the eyes......

http://www.911t.org/articles/rust/rust%20inspection.htm

 

[bernard tester]

Hi The wurth product I use is dichtfix seal/fix it comes in cartridges and you have to use a speical gun to apply, it is very good and you can over paint if you wish, When I overpaint I spray with a plastic primer and then add 10% flex agent to prevent cracking, I have used this product for years and have had no probs. The floor inside should have a sound deadening (black looks like bitumen) I have not found anything to replicate this, sound deadening pads are not good enough anyone with any ideas?

 

[Nick Moss]

For the floors inside the car I use "Sound and Vibration Damping Pads" available from Woolies. They are very close to the original bitumen type sound deadening.