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S4 calipers - tech question

paulf968

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Can anyone tell me whether all S4 front brake calipers have piston dust seals? I have seen a pair for sale that have no dust seals and a helpful mate has told me that early ones may operate without dust seals -- but that does seem mad and rather un-Porsche like.

Who would know the answer to this?
 
right I think I have cracked it, the Porsche parts catalogue is very helpful, there are actually 4 types of S4 calipers . Each caliper does have a year of manufacture cast into it so that will help with indentification if you get landed with a pair.

1) the earliest S4 calipers are in fact from the previous model of 928 with 36 & 42 mm dia pistons. ie they used the parts bin up to 1987 ish (part nos: 928 351 421/2 00 for left & right calipers)

2) the next type produced until 1988 has the larger 36 & 44 mm dia pistons BUT uses a different dust seal (the dust seal is smaller than later models, so it does do not fit calipers made from 89 onwards) (part nos 928 351 421/2 01 for left and right)

3) Type 3, is as 2) above but made to 1991 and has the larger improved dust seals (part nos 1989-91 928 351 421/2 03 for left and right)

4) Type 4 is as 2) above but made from 1991 onwards and also has the larger improved dustseals. Not sure why it is different than Type 3 BUT it has the same part no and uses the same dust seals.

COST OF REPAIR KITS
This is where there is a catch:

Type 2 repair kits for all 8 pistons will cost at least £250, depending on how good you are at getting discount from an OPC

Type 3 & 4 calipers are out there in much greater numbers so the repair kits are much cheaper. Cost of repair kits for all 8 pistons is just over £100, again depending on how much discount you can get from your OPC.

a prize will be given if you get this far without nodding off!
 
If yours turns out to be the £250 option it might be worth pricing up new calipers. When I was upgrading to Big Blacks the best price I got from Exeter OPC was £400 per caliper. I ended up getting a kit from the states at $1400 all in for discs, adaptor brackets, pads when the exchange rate was 2:1. With the $ currently in freefall it might be worth the upgrade rather than spending £250 per caliper on old calipers.
 
Scott - was having similar thoughts. The £250 for repair kits to the Type 2 calipers is for both calipers and new ones are around £750- £800 for both depending on the discount from your OPC.

I concluded that the bores of the old ones are in good nick, there is no visible plate lift so performance will be OK when refurbed -- so no need for new ones. NB as it is for PCGB race use -- size upgrades not allowed in the regs
 

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