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London987

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i have the integrated satnav and just found out that the update is 400 quid plus a possible 100/150 if the software is out of date. my version is about four years old and its starting to show.

i know that i can get a separate unit but before i look at that option does anyone know if the update and disks can be bought anywhere apart from an OPC?

i saw berty started a similar thread off a while back - does anyone know if anything came of it? i'd like the update but not at that price....its way over the top.
 
Can never understand why manufactures expect people to pay these riduculous sums when an superior off the shelf unit admitedly to be stuck on screen can be had for relatively speaking buttons
 
i wouldn't have bothered with the satnav had i ordered the car but as it is there i may as well use it....not for 500 pounds though - that buys a pretty comprehensive atlas!

well, if anyone had any ideas please let me know.

much appreciated
 
oops - didn't mean to suggest anything on those lines. however if anyone knows if say a ford's disk works or something along those lines i would be interested. bmw charge 140 quid for the updates and release them every year. i expected a mark up but this is silly.
 
Its the very reason that every used buyers guide now says its not an essential optional extra to have - in fact most prefer cars without it as its an out of date system and expensive to keep even remotely up to date.
 
I'd never had sat nav before, but I really love the PCM in my Boxster. Just a shame that the updates are both so infrequent and expensive.
 
To answer the question , no the Porsche navigation disc is not compatable with any other manufacturer or stand alone system. The discs are however compatable across all models so a Cayenne PCM 2.1 uses the same map DVD as a 997 as a Cayman/ Boxster. The best place to pick up a legal DVD MAP is e bay , buying a used or second hand disc. The most recent map DVD is actually 05.2007 though you may also see map DVD's with 08.2007 on the cover , the disc inside is actually the same. The reason for this is the 08.2007 disc was sold as part of a map update bundle that is still current. I am in the process of tracking down who is responsible for authorising map releases at porsche. If you would like to lend support to the poll for navigation updates I started a thread over on the 997 forum with a vote option.
 
Last week, a Porsche centre driver returned my car after warranty work. He said, "your SAT NAV doesn't have all of the roads around here, I had to use my portable TOM TOM to find your house" That was no surprise to me.
 
Two months after I bought my 987 in March 2005 PCM was upgraded to include Traffic Messaging (congestion notification). I was refused an FOC upgrade and offered one for £420, despite it being included in the brochure I was given before purchase. The dealer principal of my OPC was so embarrassed by this blatant breach of sales ethics that he offered it at cost with no fitting charge, for £280. I spent three months arguing the toss with Porsche GB to no avail.

So save yourself the aggravation and buy a Tom Tom. They are a fraction of the cost, easier to update, provide better facilities and are mountable in a much more driver-friendly position. PCM upgrades are far too good an earner for Porsche GB to price them fairly. They rely on our loyalty and unwillingness to fit non-Porsche extras to our precious cars, and to avoid the incredible hourly rates for OPC servicing and maintenance by using an OEM. The credit crunch may well be the tipping point for Porsche GB's more cost-conscious customers. Like bankers, the greedy usually get their come-uppance in the end.

A later nav upgrade for my BMW325 cost me just £80!
 
Completely agree with Brian.

I've always thought the Navigation screen is incredibly badly placed. Dangerous even. With a TomTom in my eyeline I can glimpse the exact exit it really means from a roundabout, which lane I need etc off of the Autobahn (they exit both sides!) etc, without taking my eyes off the road. A big safety plus point!
 
If you have the genuine PCM navigation there is also the tulip card display on the instrument cluster , plus the verbal instructions. Personally i find the larger screen format of the OEM navigation requires less time to concentrate and review than the smaller stand alone units.
 
i do like the arrow on the speedo....came in very handy this weekend. does anyone know if the software update on its own (about 100 quid) will let me do postcode searches or is it just a prelim to the update? i'm not too bothered on the map update at 450 quid until either i go somewhere in europe or until it gets reeeeeally old but postcode searches would be useful.
 
I have PCM in my car because it came pre-specified, but I wouldn't choose to spend nearly £2k on it otherwise. I quite like some of the things it does, particularly the various trip computations. Also the lastest version looks better, but frankly I'd stick with a Tom Tom or similar and subscribe to traffic and camera updates. Its just a shame the 12v sockets are in inconvenient places.
 
ORIGINAL: London987
does anyone know if the software update on its own (about 100 quid) will let me do postcode searches or is it just a prelim to the update?
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Even on the latest version you can't do full UK postcode search..[:(] works fine for European ones though

garyw
 
IMO the later PCM navigation systems are excellent, and far superior to many other manufacturers' systems and most of the portable units.

However, I would agree that Porsche should and could do a lot more to support their systems and earn some valuable goodwill with their customers. It's one of the few areas where they have been very shabby.
 
ORIGINAL: garyw

ORIGINAL: London987
does anyone know if the software update on its own (about 100 quid) will let me do postcode searches or is it just a prelim to the update?
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Even on the latest version you can't do full UK postcode search..[:(] works fine for European ones though

garyw
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If you don't have UK TMC and Post code search then the update will not be compatible with your current mapping DVD.
 
The traffic information system (TMC ) is coded into the map DVD software. The hardware to support TMC is already in place on the PCM2.1 and works in certain countries of Europe such as Germany and parts of France even if not in the UK. If the car in question is an early PCM 2.1 and currently using a 2004 map DVD then TMC for the UK is not supported. In order that you can recieve TMC information in the UK , not only is a new map required (2005 or later DVD) but also the PCM must be updated in software to accept it. If the vehicle is currently using a 2005 or later map DVD on a PCM 2.1 , TMC should already be active for the UK.
 
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