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Shell Numbers (again)

DSCBoy

DSCBoy

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Right, whilst rummaging around in the back of the biturbo-nasty I realised the rear carpet is fitted onto a wooden insert rather than glued to the bulkhead itself... it also has a convenient finger-notch in it which enabled me to hook it forward far enough to see the shell number on the rear shelf!

Now mine takes the form of 123-4567 ?? Are those of us without carpets (note how I now smugly put myself in this new "class") seeing numbers of the same form?

In the interests of information sharing, my car has a shell in the range 143-4290 to 143-4300

Cheers
Rick
 
ORIGINAL: DSCBoy

Right, whilst rummaging around in the back of the biturbo-nasty I realised the rear carpet is fitted onto a wooden insert rather than glued to the bulkhead itself... it also has a convenient finger-notch in it which enabled me to hook it forward far enough to see the shell number on the rear shelf!

Now mine takes the form of 123-4567 ?? Are those of us without carpets (note how I now smugly put myself in this new "class") seeing numbers of the same form?

In the interests of information sharing, my car has a shell in the range 143-4290 to 143-4300

Cheers
Rick
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According to my fact file (exclusive Weissach edition) that shell number belongs to two cars and was owned by a schizo race driver who sold the car twice and managed two crashes on the same lap while competing in two series with a Co-Driver who had a double barrelled name and was one of two identical twins, who was born in a town twinned with Nurburg.
 
You might well be right... on my summer travels I came across an insider from the factory who confirmed my car did indeed hail from the collection of a man legendary for switching the VINs...and for snotting cars. So an email has been fired across to Mulder c/o Weissach with the shell number to discover the truth... it's out there...

Meanwhile, was interested if I'd got a shell number that looks vaguely like anyone elses??
 
Did you try searching?

http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=428758&mpage=1&key=shell%2Cnumber
 
The number on the rear shelf is included in the panel numbers on the bonnet, rear engine cover and doors.

There's another one under the front facia ... somewhere !

 
Cripes, missed that topic completely and search didn't bring it up for some reason... thanks!

So we've got a couple of shells in the 142s... and we've proved that if you have original sticker under hood it shows the shell number on that which can prove if the car has been reshelled and if the openings are original.

Interested to know if any narrow body shells start 143?? But sounds like mine is at least from the right era.

Told I won't get a response for a month or so on what info factory keep re the shells... will keep you posted.

Cheers
 
ORIGINAL: carreraboy

According to my fact file (exclusive Weissach edition) that shell number belongs to two cars and was owned by a schizo race driver who sold the car twice and managed two crashes on the same lap while competing in two series with a Co-Driver who had a double barrelled name and was one of two identical twins, who was born in a town twinned with Nurburg.
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But that was not one of the Walter Röhrl clones, who show up at car shows, while the true Walter is flat out sideways in the Weissach forests. On a true Walter Röhrl shell the shell number digits are sideways also - see Weissach fact file, secret appendix, hidden chapter 7.1.4.

Rick, now you know everything...

For more info you have to meet the master of history´s secrets and future´s RS prices in one of his two identical busses, who manages to be at two bus meetings at the same time. It´s not allowed to mention his name though.


Rgds

Hacki
 
Told it's not a Turbo shell as the cage is factory fit (by those who know..) and no-one seems aware of any turbo shells being fired out by the factory in clubsport trim. Plus it's got typical RS tell-tales like the double skinning etc.
Think debate is if it's original (i.e. my car is the RS 3.8 it's supposed to be) or a later shell bought to build an RSR and used to rebuild the snotted road car whose VIN I have instead... although again, I'm not sure if those later shells came with the factory fit cage.

Think Des is suffering RS withdrawal symptoms... not sure what Hacki's excuse is though ;-)
 
I think you have a 964RSR wide body shell twice.

Seriously there were factory Turbo Imsa race cars 965, maybe these were built at the USA Plant ...... Santa Ana ....
 
Out of pure interest does anyone know what the difference is between a turbo and non turbo shell apart from the obvious extra wide wings? Is there a difference in the rear inner wings for instance ? to allow for wider rubber ? Shorter drive shafts etc?
 
Rick ..... just had a call from my connection at Weissach on my Porsche Hotline Cell Phone, your Chassis numbers were an original test programme for the four wheel drive RSR with two rear ends welded, so there was two horizontally opposed flat six engines and two reverse gears.

It was secretly driven round the car park at the Nurburging ... Porsche then decided to clone the car and sell it two times further to a Bavarian Farm to help plough a field a wheat with a natural double seed.[;)]
 
ORIGINAL: carreraboy

Rick ..... just had a call from my connection at Weissach on my Porsche Hotline Cell Phone, your Chassis numbers were an original test programme for the four wheel drive RSR with two rear ends welded, so there was two horizontally opposed flat six engines and two reverse gears.

It was secretly driven round the car park at the Nurburging ... Porsche then decided to clone the car and sell it two times further to a Bavarian Farm to help plough a field a wheat with a natural double seed.[;)]
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...don´t forget to mention they plough sideway, of course. As a secret Weissach supervisor I can show you a picture of Rick´s chassis:

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ORIGINAL: Hacki

ORIGINAL: carreraboy

Rick ..... just had a call from my connection at Weissach on my Porsche Hotline Cell Phone, your Chassis numbers were an original test programme for the four wheel drive RSR with two rear ends welded, so there was two horizontally opposed flat six engines and two reverse gears.

It was secretly driven round the car park at the Nurburging ... Porsche then decided to clone the car and sell it two times further to a Bavarian Farm to help plough a field a wheat with a natural double seed.[;)]
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...don´t forget to mention they plough sideway, of course. As a secret Weissach supervisor I can show you a picture of Rick´s chassis:

6B10991F38444532974B47BE13DE0271.jpg
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Yes that's it ......and RHD/LHD in a disguised Maritime[:D]
 
ORIGINAL: DSCBoy

Now mine takes the form of 123-4567

Cheers
Rick
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Your shell number tells me that your car left the factory as a whole car and not just a shell. It is a 1993 model year body shell and was not built as an RS or other motorsport type shell. What is it reported to be?
 
The car is supposed to be one of the handful of 964 RS 3.8's that left the factory in clubsport spec... I have records of the original VIN which would confirm this but the car no longer wears this number.

I've had a very kind PM from another chap on here confirming his shell on his 964 RSR is in the same range (starting with 143-XXXX) so it's looking increasingly likely that the story of my car is confirmed, the cage is definitely factory fit I am told, the widebody is original not grafted on later from what we can tell and the original paint underneath the current colour matches the colour on the log book of the original car, but now waiting to hear from factory archive for confirmation.

Of course if you can shed any light on it, all evidence appreciated.

Cheers
Rick
 
Rick, sorry must be my mistake. Having a bad hair day. If you have all the paper work that backs it up then thats good.
 
ORIGINAL: DSCBoy

the cage is definitely factory fit I am told,
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Rick,

AFAIK all the cages for factory cars were fit by the no longer existing Matter company. I have the data sheet of that cage for 964s, which was part of the "Wagenpaß". The cage is described in detail and there are some pics, too.
I can send you PDFs, if you want me to.

Is there a hidden silver Matter sticker somewhere, that survived repaint and leather interior?

Rgds,

Hacki

 
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