Short Shift Kit
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Try Jon Mitchell. I've had both the road one and now the track one and they definitely shorten the shift right up. It needs a bit of getting used to if you've got a sloppy shift now, and you really need to be double shuffling and heel and toeing to get the most benefit, but I don't think I'd switch back to stock now.
Neil Haughey
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IMHO my shift quality is better after binning the short shift kit I got from ParagonProducts a few years back, and replacing with a complete new linkage kit I got from Exeter OPC. Short shifters are nice but IMHE 90% of my dissatifaction with the standard shift was down to worn clucth followed by worn shift linkages.
OT but isn't the shift action on new MX-5's amazingly good! I have to say it because one of the few times that something from a new car has really impressed me.
Neil Haughey
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If ur someone like my gf then the new one is much better because it is more refined. She loves the folding metal roof on the RC and things like the LSD are an unknown as you would expect so the sport variant is of no use to her. Seriously a car like the 1.8 RC is tailor made for 30+ women who want something nice to nip about in. I like the car one hell of a lot but would never in a million miles buy one for myself.
OTOH she loves the look of the S2/968 convertibles so maybe we should get one of those.
Big Dave
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Whats all this talk about MX5,s.????? [8|][8|]I thought it was a PORSCHE forum.???[8|][8|]
Getting back ON TOPIC chaps...Short Shift kits for the 944S2...
Pete. you need to drive my S2. Its got the gearbox mounted SSK fitted .. Its GREAT. I wouldnt have anything else....[
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You can always fit it when you get round to fitting a LSD..[][][]
Getting back ON TOPIC chaps...Short Shift kits for the 944S2...
Pete. you need to drive my S2. Its got the gearbox mounted SSK fitted .. Its GREAT. I wouldnt have anything else....[
][][][] You can always fit it when you get round to fitting a LSD..[
][][]Thanks chaps, so if I want a better shift I need an MX5[][][]
Dave, I will take you up on your offer of a drive, the difference between the S2 and the 68 is quite marked far more so than the 68 to the Cayman. I am not sure if it is the shift or the gearbox actually makes the difference.
][][]Dave, I will take you up on your offer of a drive, the difference between the S2 and the 68 is quite marked far more so than the 68 to the Cayman. I am not sure if it is the shift or the gearbox actually makes the difference.
Mk2 MX5 was my choice of car 18 months ago, and I drove a number of them. They really are teriffic cars - the gearshift is one magical part of a brilliant whole. I haven't driven a Mk3 so can't comment on how quickly the back jumps out on one of those, but the Mk2 could be made to slide very easily, very progressively and very safely.
I'd have bought one if it had even a pretence at a back seat - it was to be an only car. I could even have lived with the limited luggage space.
We bought an S2 instead.
Oli.
I'd have bought one if it had even a pretence at a back seat - it was to be an only car. I could even have lived with the limited luggage space.
We bought an S2 instead.
Oli.
sawood12
New member
The Jon Mitchell kit is a gearbox mounted one. The lever kits are a halfway house and only give the apperance of a short shift by changing thelever fulcrum position. The gearbox mounted shifters are the proper things and change the throw of the shift at the mechanism that actually connects directly to the gearbox. If I recall correctly he also does a replacement kit for the ball and socket mechanism that sits under the lever which also can become sloppy, so the combination of the two should give you a mechanical shift with no sloppiness at all.
Patrick- how does the track kit compare to the road kit in terms of the force needed to shift? I'm wondering if the track kit would be too much for the road especially on those cold mornings when it is difficult enough as it is to shift from 1st to 2nd gear until the gearbox warms up a bit. Also how much is the kit if you don't mind me asking?
Patrick- how does the track kit compare to the road kit in terms of the force needed to shift? I'm wondering if the track kit would be too much for the road especially on those cold mornings when it is difficult enough as it is to shift from 1st to 2nd gear until the gearbox warms up a bit. Also how much is the kit if you don't mind me asking?
Well to be honest Scott, I didn't notice so much difference between them, but it is some time since I had them changed. In fact we had a problem with the 1st one which was the road version, but that was our mistake in the mounting procedure. So inbetween I went back to my 'Salad Spoon' aka stock shifter and I got used to it funnily enough. I was trying to think of an analogy to describe the differences from stock to the transmission short shifter and I came up with this: The stock shift is like a well sorted car with maybe a ball race turbo or one with very good spool up. The short shifters are more like a car with a bigger turbo that you have to wait a while and then whammo. By this I mean the short shift is definitely shorter in it's travel but by the time you double shuffle and heel and toe you could have slammed through the gate with the smoother stock model. It's a strange concept and not always the case as sometime the short shifter is very quick and satisfying to use, but it could be a bit iffy on those cold English morns. I like double shuffling and heel and toeing so it's all in all a satisfying setup, but we wouldn't have the temp's that you do so it may be worth trying the road shift model first. I can't remember the costs I'm sorry.
Having said all that, has anyone checked out the link in the post by TTM? Firstly it shows a very similar kit to the one from Jon and it looks very well made from the pics, but I was also interested in the GTS headlight conversion kit however I don't read German and when you translate apart from getting a giggle, I can't see where you can actually order from that site? The product on that site looks good as far as I can tell and I've been trying in vain to track down a decent set of those GTS style headlights but either they don't fit very well or the people don't return emails.
Any advice is appreciated.
Patrick
Having said all that, has anyone checked out the link in the post by TTM? Firstly it shows a very similar kit to the one from Jon and it looks very well made from the pics, but I was also interested in the GTS headlight conversion kit however I don't read German and when you translate apart from getting a giggle, I can't see where you can actually order from that site? The product on that site looks good as far as I can tell and I've been trying in vain to track down a decent set of those GTS style headlights but either they don't fit very well or the people don't return emails.
Any advice is appreciated.
Patrick
TTM
Well-known member
Patrick,
If you prefer to deal with someone who speaks English then I can order them and sell them to you for twice the price [].
Joking aside, send them an e-mail ; they certainly speak English. I saw them at a meeting in Germany last year ; along with some of their products they showed up with a track 944S with a dry sump engine. At the time they did not make the GTS headlights yet but the quality of their SSK, rear ARB droplinks and camber plates certainly inspired confidence.
If you prefer to deal with someone who speaks English then I can order them and sell them to you for twice the price [
].Joking aside, send them an e-mail ; they certainly speak English. I saw them at a meeting in Germany last year ; along with some of their products they showed up with a track 944S with a dry sump engine. At the time they did not make the GTS headlights yet but the quality of their SSK, rear ARB droplinks and camber plates certainly inspired confidence.
sawood12
New member
Just had a look. There is some trick pieces of kit on there. I like the look of the camber plates and the front splitter - it seems to stick out a bit more than other ones i've see, though at my current ride height wouldn't last long. I'd also be tempted with the GTS headlights if the light itself was some fancy looking lensed Xenon unit.
sawood12
New member
The BabelFish translator reckons it says:-
Plastic back windows (also with road permission) Our properly matching back windows are made of 4 mm of strong, UV steady and gas-carburized Lexan. These disks are greenish dyed, bombiert and can be driven even owing to certificate (stamp) in the traffic. By the dye they fit wonderfully the original disks and do not disturb not the general picture. Private drivers but many running teams do not only trust in the Quallitaet our supplied products. Off vorraussichtlich, we offer disks ready to be installed with frameworks for the types 924-944-968 to in the middle of the yearly 2007. Price p.St.: 523? Framework inclusive. Assembly: 419? (only 924 & 944) 968 frameworks at present only with supply frameworks! The frameworks are cleaned by old dirt and adhesive remainders and radiated anschl.. THENOH they are coated in the powder procedure (black gloss) and treated and stuck together with special UVSTEADY materials. The disks receive all, also for optical reasons, an UV to steady, black edge.![[FONT=verdana,geneva"]](/forum/styles/default/pcgb/space.gif ". [FONT=verdana,geneva\"]")
And for the quaterlights:-
nsere plastic disks are made of break-proof and reciprocally UVSTEADY Makrolon® and are 4mm strongly. They are supplied with German test character with DIN number and wave line and can be driven legally on the road and racing course. Price: EUR 199, -
And to keep the thread on track, the short shift kit:-
For racing and sportily drivers ambitionierten. Replaces the often deflected original plastic joint at the transmission, a which cause is frequent for imprecise circuits, large play in the switching lane and unsportliches switching feeling. Short operating paths permit fast and precise course changes and the safe meeting of the switching lanes. The switching forces increase in reverse proportionally to the operating path schaltwegverkuerzung. Without rework exchangeable with original switching joint, a perfect shift lever socket of the shifter rod and a not worn out guide pin in the shift lever are a condition. Price: EUR 137, -
Plastic back windows (also with road permission) Our properly matching back windows are made of 4 mm of strong, UV steady and gas-carburized Lexan. These disks are greenish dyed, bombiert and can be driven even owing to certificate (stamp) in the traffic. By the dye they fit wonderfully the original disks and do not disturb not the general picture. Private drivers but many running teams do not only trust in the Quallitaet our supplied products. Off vorraussichtlich, we offer disks ready to be installed with frameworks for the types 924-944-968 to in the middle of the yearly 2007. Price p.St.: 523? Framework inclusive. Assembly: 419? (only 924 & 944) 968 frameworks at present only with supply frameworks! The frameworks are cleaned by old dirt and adhesive remainders and radiated anschl.. THENOH they are coated in the powder procedure (black gloss) and treated and stuck together with special UVSTEADY materials. The disks receive all, also for optical reasons, an UV to steady, black edge.
And for the quaterlights:-
nsere plastic disks are made of break-proof and reciprocally UVSTEADY Makrolon® and are 4mm strongly. They are supplied with German test character with DIN number and wave line and can be driven legally on the road and racing course. Price: EUR 199, -
And to keep the thread on track, the short shift kit:-
For racing and sportily drivers ambitionierten. Replaces the often deflected original plastic joint at the transmission, a which cause is frequent for imprecise circuits, large play in the switching lane and unsportliches switching feeling. Short operating paths permit fast and precise course changes and the safe meeting of the switching lanes. The switching forces increase in reverse proportionally to the operating path schaltwegverkuerzung. Without rework exchangeable with original switching joint, a perfect shift lever socket of the shifter rod and a not worn out guide pin in the shift lever are a condition. Price: EUR 137, -
Gotta love some of those translations don't you. [] Well it seems as if I may have found an alternative to the GTS light issue but until I sort it out I won't speak of it. The ones on that site do look very good though but they are not an HID light so that part of it looks a bit basic. I really just want to do away with the motors and the headlight bar for weight and room more than looks alone. I will keep digging.
] Well it seems as if I may have found an alternative to the GTS light issue but until I sort it out I won't speak of it. The ones on that site do look very good though but they are not an HID light so that part of it looks a bit basic. I really just want to do away with the motors and the headlight bar for weight and room more than looks alone. I will keep digging.
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