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Slightly off topic: what would be next?

PhilRS

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OK so most of us agree that we own precious cars that have been consistently beating the stock market at its own game.

Of course, they are a thrill to drive and the experience matters more than absolute speed.

Assuming that you had to retire your pride and joy and be given 100k pounds to spend on a non 964/93RS/R/Cup, which Porsche would you buy for the track?

And why?
 
For a 100K would not touch the original pre impact RS maybe if you tripled that figure and some ..... then one looks forward to the GT3 which delivers a totally different dimension with little driver involvement etc .....

So dare I say would have to be a modified hybrid track car ...

Good question which really nails why a 64/93RS is King of the Hill and why values are where they are.
 
Old banger GT3 Cup and with the change summat challenging.... 1926 Riley 1.5 TT floats my boat......
 
For 100k you could build about anything you want in air cooled and buy anything you want in water cooled?

So the question is what do you want?
 
An old GT3 Cup, I think. Many cars available, also many parts. The teams know this car perfectly, so easy to set it up and keep it running. Running cost for sure an issue.
For 100k the car should come with a good spare part package and three sets of wheels.
That car would also mean less looking in the rear view mirror. (e. g. on Kemmel[:mad:][:mad:])
 
I might go for a 3.0 RSR replica, or if 100k was enough, a 935k3 lookalike with a crazy turboed engine spitting flames and all (with 100k, could not call it a replica!)

A '65 racer would be good fun on cross ply tyres. Would keep me busy off Kemmel [:D]

996 not for me [:'(]



 
I have been looking at this a lot lately,996 /997 cup cars Are not bad value, but are one trick ponies

I'm liking 911 sc these days,possibly to mess about and make something different....but then making a car like this would involve a lot of money to never get back....possibly would end up similar to 964 rs anyway!!

You could have 3 really nice water cooled Porsches for price of 964 rs ...which is mad when you think of it
 
Actually agree with a 65 car if you can find one for that money (that you'd want to buy).

If you dont need the value proposition that the 64RS offers (depreciation proof and reasonable to cheap run (cant believe I said that!). Then an early wet car is damn hard to beat. I'm not sure the 996s are one trick ponies. The feedback on the 96RS is really positive, I'm sure its a sublime car worthy of the name. I can imagine owners of 3.2CS, and 73 RSs back in the day looking at the 64RS and saying - "look what they've done - its got so much grip, and its as stiff as a board, there is no feedback or intimacy, its lost its magic!"

Progress is progress, whilst things dont always get better, I think fun can be had in a later car, in the same way that it can in 964 and a pre-70 car. I agree values of 993 / 964 are off the scale compared to how close an experience you get in a GT5.
 
The 996RSs are great cars. In fact, I have entertained many times the idea of buying an early 996 GT3 R, or RS (the racing versions), with manual gearbox, Le Mans or similarly nice provenance. They come on the market once in a while and are not that expensive--of course there might be evil hidden costs and mongrels; the race car market is always a bit of a gamble (e.g. I bought my 964 RSR "Wiz metallic bits in ze oil filter!" Turned out not to be that bad but still had our favourite dealer on the phone when I turned on the engine--wanted to share the experience with him [;)]).

Ultimately, and I know that this should be a secondary factor, but... I do find the aesthetics of 996s "questionable," [:'(] so there is no "996RS emotional purchase" for me (of course no insult intended to anyone's pride and joy, just my opinion).

Porsche redeemed themselves with the 997 somewhat, but the RSRs might need a team to look after, rather than one enthusiast. And this (the team) brings me to Group C cars territory, which are now available (at least for C2s) for the cost of our pride and joy (for on the button, race cars with great provenance; I researched the market in detail, talked to teams and so forth).

I know that I am drifting even more off topic as we are now well > 100k hypothetical budget but... It is strange to realise that a mundane 2.7RS (I frankly don't get why the excitement, but each to their own) is worth the value of a Group C car... I know, I know, but most people will collect these cars and consider them as investments to be used sporadically. For sporadic use, I would buy a 2.0S or a 2.2S (both mechanical injection) before a 2.7RS, whose engine (and that of the 2.4S) are much less thrilling in comparison.

So, a '65 911/3.0RSR replica or a 997 Cup... Might race the formers or substitute the latter for my 993 cup. And so here is the question: Racing or track days?


ORIGINAL: h_____
If you dont need the value proposition that the 64RS offers (depreciation proof and reasonable to cheap run (cant believe I said that!). Then an early wet car is damn hard to beat. I'm not sure the 996s are one trick ponies. The feedback on the 96RS is really positive, I'm sure its a sublime car worthy of the name. I can imagine owners of 3.2CS, and 73 RSs back in the day looking at the 64RS and saying - "look what they've done - its got so much grip, and its as stiff as a board, there is no feedback or intimacy, its lost its magic!"

Progress is progress, whilst things dont always get better, I think fun can be had in a later car, in the same way that it can in 964 and a pre-70 car. I agree values of 993 / 964 are off the scale compared to how close an experience you get in a GT5.
 
Make me an offer.....

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ORIGINAL: PhilRS

And so here is the question: Racing or track days?

How deep are your pockets???

Some Group C cars seem almost attainable these days, but a huge leap from what we are used to from a driving point of view... and if something breaks.....

And frankly having sat in a few, really uncomfortable and limited sight -all credit to the guys who used to race them for hours.....
 

ORIGINAL: davidcross


PCGB online auction perhaps. I'll start the bidding if you like Jason 30k........Anyone feel free to top me

At 30k I'll top you lol!

I fancy a 964 again, must stop looking at pics of them on facebook...they really are great looking 911s.
 

ORIGINAL: jason


ORIGINAL: davidcross


PCGB online auction perhaps. I'll start the bidding if you like Jason 30k........Anyone feel free to top me

At 30k I'll top you lol!

I fancy a 964 again, must stop looking at pics of them on facebook...they really are great looking 911s.


Ah I thought you had a 964 RS? Yup now regretting selling my 964 C2
 

ORIGINAL: davidcross


ORIGINAL: jason


ORIGINAL: davidcross


PCGB online auction perhaps. I'll start the bidding if you like Jason 30k........Anyone feel free to top me

At 30k I'll top you lol!

I fancy a 964 again, must stop looking at pics of them on facebook...they really are great looking 911s.


Ah I thought you had a 964 RS? Yup now regretting selling my 964 C2

Jason did have a 964RS, but he contracted a rare disease that results in the victim painting parts of their car bright orange and then selling it on only to regret it later. A couple of the group have succumbed, but most of us just keep taking the pills everyday...
 

ORIGINAL: jason


ORIGINAL: davidcross


PCGB online auction perhaps. I'll start the bidding if you like Jason 30k........Anyone feel free to top me

At 30k I'll top you lol!

I fancy a 964 again, must stop looking at pics of them on facebook...they really are great looking 911s.


Slow auction this....31bid ;)
 

ORIGINAL: jason


ORIGINAL: davidcross


PCGB online auction perhaps. I'll start the bidding if you like Jason 30k........Anyone feel free to top me

At 30k I'll top you lol!

I fancy a 964 again, must stop looking at pics of them on facebook...they really are great looking 911s.


Another 964RS Jason ..... [;)]
 
Not unless I can pick one up for £40k like my mate at end of last year...

Otherwise Ill wait till the inevitable bubble bursts in the future.

Doubt ill sell the orange beastie. I'm always thinking about it and looking about, but having spent a couple of hours tonight looking at the overpriced crap for sale at the moment replacing it may be a tad optimistic...
 

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