Snow!
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tiskev
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When I first had mine 4/5 years ago we took it to the Alps for the october half term with a couple of the grandchildren.We had snow and it was useless not even a chance to show off.I bought a set of spare wheels immed i got back .When we had this snow recently I thought about them again hence my recent post about pirelli Scorpions.Still have not bought the tyres .Luckily we have a Defender so managed to get around with this recent stuff .
Tony M
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Hi Kev,
I have to disagree with you on that point.
Cayennes can be brilliant in the snow. If you have Icy conditions you can lock the Diffs, engage a low gear in Manual setting and with light throttle you can go almost anywhere.
One of the Builders got his Vito van stuck on our lane the other day and was going sideways even with Mercedes Traction control both on or off. The Cayenne, slowly but easily, Towed the Vito van up the Lane and up the Driveway. When the Tow rope was disconnected, the Vito again went nowhere so we pushed it about face and the Builder slithered off home.
If you are negotiating a steep icy downhill gradient in a Cayenne, in locked low gear, with almost zero throttle the electronics will Brake the wheels accordingly and give a controlled descent.
When we collected the GTS from Leipzig the muddy test track really showed what the Cayenne is capable of.
I hate to say it, but a few years back I went on a 'Shoot' and took our Mercedes ML. The day was wet and really muddy and the Guys in the Land Rover defenders with the 'All Terrain' Tyres looked in amusement at the ML. When they got stuck, the smiles were on the other side of their faces when the ML, with its Road Tyres,pulled itself through the mud.You do have to hand it to the 'Electronics' for sorting things out when the going gets tough.
I have to disagree with you on that point.
Cayennes can be brilliant in the snow. If you have Icy conditions you can lock the Diffs, engage a low gear in Manual setting and with light throttle you can go almost anywhere.
One of the Builders got his Vito van stuck on our lane the other day and was going sideways even with Mercedes Traction control both on or off. The Cayenne, slowly but easily, Towed the Vito van up the Lane and up the Driveway. When the Tow rope was disconnected, the Vito again went nowhere so we pushed it about face and the Builder slithered off home.
If you are negotiating a steep icy downhill gradient in a Cayenne, in locked low gear, with almost zero throttle the electronics will Brake the wheels accordingly and give a controlled descent.
When we collected the GTS from Leipzig the muddy test track really showed what the Cayenne is capable of.
I hate to say it, but a few years back I went on a 'Shoot' and took our Mercedes ML. The day was wet and really muddy and the Guys in the Land Rover defenders with the 'All Terrain' Tyres looked in amusement at the ML. When they got stuck, the smiles were on the other side of their faces when the ML, with its Road Tyres,pulled itself through the mud.You do have to hand it to the 'Electronics' for sorting things out when the going gets tough.
Not interesting .. just normal [
] which was all the fun needed .. as in it was doing what the car does and doing it normally
Sue drove to work and back Monday & Tuesday across Berkshire country roads with no issues (at 7 am before any where cleared in what was probably the worst few days) .. I drove to Poole Wednesday (Sue used her Brabus Smart to get to work - which also was fine) .. Thursday and Friday normal again in only a a few inches of slush and ice
As with any car .. snow can be dangerous if not respected.. The cayenne's weight, height and 4 wheel drive and electronics all do help a HUGE amount .. As some have implied IMHO its mostly the driver and not being silly
Ohh and I know my tyres are close to needing changing as well
] which was all the fun needed .. as in it was doing what the car does and doing it normallySue drove to work and back Monday & Tuesday across Berkshire country roads with no issues (at 7 am before any where cleared in what was probably the worst few days) .. I drove to Poole Wednesday (Sue used her Brabus Smart to get to work - which also was fine) .. Thursday and Friday normal again in only a a few inches of slush and ice
As with any car .. snow can be dangerous if not respected.. The cayenne's weight, height and 4 wheel drive and electronics all do help a HUGE amount .. As some have implied IMHO its mostly the driver and not being silly
Ohh and I know my tyres are close to needing changing as well
tiskev
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Hi Tony
There is a very interesting thread on piston heads on the Cayenne I will mail it to you.
My original experience was on the standard tyres fitted then, maybe they have changed them now.
We were in Meribel visiting my son and we did drive up to Altiport ski lift off road and got stuck
Red faces all round trevor had to tow me off with one of his Defenders. Not tried it since although another son talking of driving down for half term he hesitated when I asked him if he was going to fit a set of Scorpions on the spare wheels ................
There is a very interesting thread on piston heads on the Cayenne I will mail it to you.
My original experience was on the standard tyres fitted then, maybe they have changed them now.
We were in Meribel visiting my son and we did drive up to Altiport ski lift off road and got stuck
Red faces all round trevor had to tow me off with one of his Defenders. Not tried it since although another son talking of driving down for half term he hesitated when I asked him if he was going to fit a set of Scorpions on the spare wheels ................
Tony M
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Hi Kev,
I think half of the problem with Cayenne owners is that they do not know how to take full advantage of the sophisticated electronics and differential locks.
I have to admit that I needed to take a few minutes out to read the handbook to engage the functions which can only be selected when the car is in Neutral with the engine running. I was initially trying to engage the 'Off Road' facility in park and whilst I had flashing lights on the selector nothing engaged. Once I refreshed my memory with the handbook, the lights stayed on and the dashboard display confirmed that the Mode was selected.
Back to Cayenne capability, if you do get into a serious loss of traction scenario, be it in the dry or wet or icy conditions, the PSM (Please Save Me, or Porsche Stability Management to give it it's official name) will endeavour to sort things out for us. With no assistance from your foot, the PSM will actually bring the car to a halt if you get into serious trouble with stability. I have yet to try this function personally, but at Leipzig we were doing about 80 MPH and the Driver put full lock on the Cayenne and with no interference the car came to a standstill under perfect control. How the bloody hell it did it will remain a mystery to me, but it did !! That was with the driver and four passengers. With the PSM off, the driver was able to Powerslide the Cayenne around Corners and with smoking tyres and white faced passengers. We all subsequently agreed that Cayennes are something special.
I think half of the problem with Cayenne owners is that they do not know how to take full advantage of the sophisticated electronics and differential locks.
I have to admit that I needed to take a few minutes out to read the handbook to engage the functions which can only be selected when the car is in Neutral with the engine running. I was initially trying to engage the 'Off Road' facility in park and whilst I had flashing lights on the selector nothing engaged. Once I refreshed my memory with the handbook, the lights stayed on and the dashboard display confirmed that the Mode was selected.
Back to Cayenne capability, if you do get into a serious loss of traction scenario, be it in the dry or wet or icy conditions, the PSM (Please Save Me, or Porsche Stability Management to give it it's official name) will endeavour to sort things out for us. With no assistance from your foot, the PSM will actually bring the car to a halt if you get into serious trouble with stability. I have yet to try this function personally, but at Leipzig we were doing about 80 MPH and the Driver put full lock on the Cayenne and with no interference the car came to a standstill under perfect control. How the bloody hell it did it will remain a mystery to me, but it did !! That was with the driver and four passengers. With the PSM off, the driver was able to Powerslide the Cayenne around Corners and with smoking tyres and white faced passengers. We all subsequently agreed that Cayennes are something special.
It is worrying how many people think that their SUVs are 4WD and therefore invincible. One of my daughter's friends mum said she will pick up my child and take her to school when it snowed very heavily. My wife was smart and said no thanks. Their feeling of invincibility is what worries me a great deal and your more likely to hurt someone with a heavy SUV than a smaller road car.
Harry
Harry
tiskev
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I'm afraid you are right Tony I still have not really studied the book of words and that includes the new TV as well!
Those demo drivers really are pretty exceptional. Forget the off roading if you really want to slide around ,if you have not done so before,have a Porsche Cup Driver take you around a short circuit .........Wow.
Those demo drivers really are pretty exceptional. Forget the off roading if you really want to slide around ,if you have not done so before,have a Porsche Cup Driver take you around a short circuit .........Wow.
Tony M
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You need some time out to read the Book(s) properly. Collectively they run to about 750 pages or more.
If you have Air suspension, have you read the bit about how to inflate your Tyres either on a regular 'Checking ' basis or after a puncture ?
Plugging a wand and curley pipe ito the base of the Drivers seat is the last place I would have looked for such a facility.
The one thing that still stumps me is how to locate a Petrol station if the Sat Nav is programmed to a destination. I have to cancel the route guidance and go to POI then after refuelling re-enter the original destination. On the Merc system it is easy to include a Petrol Stop, but I can't work how to do it on a Porsche system!
Back to the 'Quote'. With your new TV module, did you go Digital ? I did and the reception is hopeless. I understand it will remain that way until Analogue is switched off completely and they then wind up the Digital output signal. On the good news front, the Analogue reception is a great improvement as Porshe have increased the Aerials within the car to 12 including a big bugger in the spoiler above the tailgate.
Oh No ! I used a profanity in my Post and it has been automatically edited out ! I used the word, bee,you, double gee, e, r to describe the size of the Aerial in the spoiler. !!!
tiskev
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You are way ahead of me Tony. have used the pump Changed the clock and the big job, very difficult was changing the battery.Still finding bits of plastic trim around .Coincidence you should mention TV have been on a buying spree with TV's and have bought a few FREESAT boxes as well in fact i will do almost anything not to pay Murdoch any money ! ! They work quite well but to achive their best performance are awaiting the next visit from my No 1 grandson.You do not need to know anything about Cars TV's mobile Phones DVD recorders when you have grandchildren aged 7 and over .
PS r25 was back at Brands last night not bad, rumour has it the "Car in the Bar" next month might be a Cayenne Oiler .....
PS r25 was back at Brands last night not bad, rumour has it the "Car in the Bar" next month might be a Cayenne Oiler .....
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