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Solution for Noise on QUIET Trackdays .....

Jamie Summers

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Those of you who already have the noise reducing exhaust tips produced by my friend Will may be interested in the latest development in the pipeline, and indeed those who don't have one yet, this might help change your mind..... I should add that I have no financial interest here, just want to find a way to get my RS onto the 100db "quiet" trackdays.

As we know by now the 964 doesn't tend to have a problem with driveby noise tests, it's the static tests that cause the problems. Some circuits will take a pragmatic view about the static test and at least let you out on track to see if you trip the meters on driveby. Other circuits simply won't let you out unless you can comply with the static test (as I discovered !), regardless of whether you will trip the driveby meters or not.

Will and I were at Castle Combe on Tuesday with the Crescent Suzuki British Superbike team giving hot laps on a sponsors' day. We both failed the static test at c.105db (it was a 100db day) despite using the replacement exhaust tip - no great surprise there. Being enterprising chaps, the Suzuki boys took apart one of Will's tips, found an extra perforated baffle pipe that fitted precisely inside the removable core - packed round it will a bit of rag (obviously not a long term solution !), and hey presto we both tested 100db. Having passed the static test we were allowed out on track and simply removed the extra exhaust bung and ran happily all day without tripping the driveby meters.

What Will is now trying to do is to create a new bolt-in core for the exhaust tip that will pass a 100db static test, which can then be taken out by removing one screw before you actually go out on track. Given that it will only be used for static tests the restriction or any small amount of power loss is not too relevant as you will never need to run with it in on track.

This will allow three different exhaust configurations dependent on the noise requirements.
1.) Open (c.108db assuming decat and cup pipe) - for use at Spa and on road etc.
2.) Original removable silencer core (c.105db) - for use on most other circuits.
3.) New removable core (c.100db) - for use for static tests at Combe, Donny, Bedford etc, but to be removed before you actually go out on track.

The silencer cores will be totally interchangeable using a single screw - so literally a 30 second job to change them around.

Personally I think this is a winner - no need ever to fail a noise test again ! Post up any interest on this thread, and when Will has a prototype ready to go I will post up the details then.

Jamie
 
Am interested - I have one of the Wil Norman tips. On standard silencers (back and side) and the tip I am at 103.5. If I had a cup bypass would probably just squeeze in uner 105. But 100 is away from this - so a modified noise test core is of interest!
 
Please count me in. My car is always borderline and I could do without the excitement at the start of every trackday.
 
I'm interested too...

I have a cat-by pass, a Cargraphic twin outlet pipe in place of the primary silencer and a G-pipe. Cargraphic have told me blanking-off the left-side outlet will have no negative effects for trackdays - this would then allow me to run either Will's muffler on the end of the g-pipe, or refitting the secondary silencer along with Will's muffler.

Do you think Will would be able to fabricate me a blanking 'cap' to bolt in replace of my left hand tailpipe when on trackdays?

Where is Will based as I would be happy to visit him to discuss my requirements?

Many thanks,
Rich
 
Jamie,
Hi hope things go well with you.

I bought one of Will's tips so would also be interested in the additional silencer,

Thanks,
Kevin.
 
ORIGINAL: RSGulp

Do you think Will would be able to fabricate me a blanking 'cap' to bolt in replace of my left hand tailpipe when on trackdays?

Where is Will based as I would be happy to visit him to discuss my requirements?

Many thanks,
Rich

Rich,
I'm sure it could be done - probably best to discuss direct with Will (you can contact him through his profile on Pistonheads - go via the original thread discussing the tips - the link is on here somewhere !). No great rush yet as we're still at the development of a prototype stage. I'll post more details when I have them.

Jamie
 
It's a pity that all organisers don't operate like Bruntingthorpe - they walk up to you with the meter, ask you if you have a standard exhaust, if you say yes, they don't bother testing you[;)].

Of course, if you then fail the drive-by it's just tough luck[&o]
 
Did anyone get any contact details for this? I can't contact Will through Pistonheads because I'm not registered and refuse to register for another forum as I waste too much time on the forums I'm already on.
 
I think we may all need one of these little beasties.

I'm amazed that the decat and cup bypass comes in at 108dB --- it just sounds so subtly fruity.
 
ORIGINAL: ChrisW

I think we may all need one of these little beasties.

I'm amazed that the decat and cup bypass comes in at 108dB --- it just sounds so subtly fruity.

Or 110dB in my case [:(] Does decat/cup pipe/standard secondary result in 110dB or is my secondary exhaust faulty? Any ideas what I can do? Don't want to be refused access at Oulton Park (again!). I have a standard primary exhaust to replace the Techart Cup pipe (but loathe to!) if necessary.
 
I also have a secondary exhaust in the garage, but am getting away with the Cat and Cup bypass, a fit Primary and a Wills Tip ... so far !

Paul you would be welcome to try it but maybe you have the answer ...
 
ORIGINAL: brksy16

It's a pity that all organisers don't operate like Bruntingthorpe - they walk up to you with the meter, ask you if you have a standard exhaust, if you say yes, they don't bother testing you[;)].

Of course, if you then fail the drive-by it's just tough luck[&o]

You've not heard then? Brunters just lost their noise issue, and wont be allowing privateer testing anymore. No more rocking up slapping down 50quid and storming around the airfield for an hour. Very sad! They have had to go back to original use, so manufacturers testing. So I believe.
 
I also have a supplementary insert to fit the Wills Top which reputedly reduces the noise to 100dB for quiet track days.

I have never fitted it but --- it's only for the test, the removed --- if one can get away with that !

According to 9M the Wills Tip loses only a small amount at the top end but takes out around 7bhp in the mid range.

But, much better than being parked up watching the action !


 
hi all. i am looking for a solution to passing the noise tests on a 1973 911 2.7rs. i am currently couple decibels too high at most circuits and would like to be able to have wider variety than simply the noisey days so wopuld appreciate feedback from anyone else on this
 

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