Somebody talk my friend out of this please...

[YvesD]

Chaps,

What would be a reasonable private sale price be for the following:-

Immaculate MY06 6000 mile Basalt Black 997C2S, X51, manual, shortshift, Nav, phone, PSE, Bose, Adaptive sports seats, all the usual toys etc ( £85k if bought new ).

My friend would consider selling at around £65k ?

Yves

 

[Dylan1]

opc would be early 70k's so i would suggest upper 60's for private sale would be fair

 

[Grant]

Is this your friend or are you using the old "my friend trick" & you have decided to get yourself a proper sports car....[]...
..... a 997GT3 of course, you read the test & want the best[]!!???

 

[Julio Geordio]

LOL - that's what I thought!

ORIGINAL: Grant

Is this your friend or are you using the old "my friend trick" & you have decided to get yourself a proper sports car....[]...
..... a 997GT3 of course, you read the test & want the best[]!!???

 

[okellyt]

ORIGINAL: Julio Geordio

LOL - that's what I thought!

ORIGINAL: Grant

Is this your friend or are you using the old "my friend trick" & you have decided to get yourself a proper sports car....[]...
..... a 997GT3 of course, you read the test & want the best[]!!???

Yves - no you have weakend - step away from selling the car, you'll only regret it. unless of course your buying the Turbo or even better have one of the first GT2's in the UK on order....[][][][]

Any other vehicle isn't worth it[]

Appologies to GT3 owners, I am not critsing the cars its jsut he 997 is so new the depreciation doesn't make sense for a GT3 swap until its a few years older. []

 

[YvesD]

ORIGINAL: Grant

Is this your friend or are you using the old "my friend trick" & you have decided to get yourself a proper sports car....[]...
..... a 997GT3 of course, you read the test & want the best[]!!???

Grant,

Its the age old problem of heart v's head I'm afraid.

£65k depreciating asset against money in the bank for investment opportunities etc.

Whats a chap to do ?

Yves

 

[okellyt]

ORIGINAL: YvesD

ORIGINAL: Grant

Is this your friend or are you using the old "my friend trick" & you have decided to get yourself a proper sports car....[]...
..... a 997GT3 of course, you read the test & want the best[]!!???

Grant,

Its the age old problem of heart v's head I'm afraid.

£65k depreciating asset against money in the bank for investment opportunities etc.

Whats a chap to do ?

Yves

Drive the car more, like every day if possible so you get your money's worth and the car is used as intended[]

 

[YvesD]

ORIGINAL: okellyt

ORIGINAL: YvesD

ORIGINAL: Grant

Is this your friend or are you using the old "my friend trick" & you have decided to get yourself a proper sports car....[]...
..... a 997GT3 of course, you read the test & want the best[]!!???

Grant,

Its the age old problem of heart v's head I'm afraid.

£65k depreciating asset against money in the bank for investment opportunities etc.

Whats a chap to do ?

Yves

Drive the car more, like every day if possible so you get your money's worth and the car is used as intended[]

That makes sense, I will pass that on.....

Yves

 

[Dylan1]

as youhave specced the car to your own choice use your other millions to invest and just enjoy your car and dont worry about depreciation-we are all a long time dead!!thats why i am persuading linda to let us move to a 997TT even tho the cayman will lose 10k.luckily other (!)investments have done a lot better for us[]

 

[MarcBC]

Rule of life #1: Never buy a car and worry about the depreciation. Amortise the loss over time and walk away in a few years saying; "Gosh I enjoyed that. I must get another one (until somehthing better comes along)" []

Coming from a line of Range Rovers, I know; it is the only way!

 

[Grant]

ORIGINAL: okellyt
Yves - no you have weakend - step away from selling the car, you'll only regret it. unless of course your buying the Turbo or even better have one of the first GT2's in the UK on order....[][][][]
Any other vehicle isn't worth it[]
Appologies to GT3 owners, I am not critsing the cars its jsut he 997 is so new the depreciation doesn't make sense for a GT3 swap until its a few years older. []

Okellyt, the logic isn't quite hitting me, 997GT3 is a limited production car short supply, now not available new until the mark 2 comes along, very special race bred specification (brakes, suspension, aerodynamics, chassis, engine, sound, handling, gearbox, interaction, balance, but now also useble on road as a daily driver.... etc) vs 997S at the same price, no limited supply but a power upgrade, ok you have two rear seats & the 997S is an fantastic car, but when it comes to depreciation I know which will drop harder from new & so will the 997TT (I had a 996TT, so should know) & the 997GT2 will after its honey moon period drop like a meteor, just look at the history 120k - 50k in a few years...sensible no, great car yes!!!

Having said that I get your logic about new vs used!

ORIGINAL: YvesD
Grant,
Its the age old problem of heart v's head I'm afraid.
£65k depreciating asset against money in the bank for investment opportunities etc.
Whats a chap to do ?
Yves

YvesD I fully understand, I too love maximising returns from hard earn't money & cars loose it by the boat load, so I have always held myself back, I respect your view & no doubt you can realise £65k for your fabulous beast.

The trouble is you will still need your driving fix, if I was you I'd buy a used Boxster S roof down fun, plenty fast enough, best value Porker in the range. So you can still have a driving fix & put £30k in the bank to invest!

 

[cueman]

sell it now while u still can. there's going to be a recession, and u wont be able to give it away. Expensive cars will plummet in value. There will be no bid.

....and with the proceeds... invest in a BOAT, cos if the weather continues like this, it'll be a much better means of transport than any car []

... or do as i've just done... and buy a tractor. 1976 Fiat (yes, honestly!)... it'll be a collectors item, only no-one's figured that out jsut yet..... and u could always use it to pull your car out of the lake, that was once your driveway

 

[YvesD]

ORIGINAL: cueman

sell it now while u still can. there's going to be a recession, and u wont be able to give it away. Expensive cars will plummet in value. There will be no bid.

Soothsayer of doom !

At least if that happens I would not have the dilema of what to do !!

Yves

 

[okellyt]

Grant

Logic is easy

The 997S will take a bath on trade in at 2 -3 years old. A GT3 will be sold at or around or above new price as its att he end of a run and nearly news will be like gold dust - the depreciation gap isn't worth it.

It'll probably cost another £30k to go from 997S to GT3, if you go via a dealer, thats about £5/mile in Yves case, sorry Yves "friends case" [:-][:-][:-][:-]

So owner keeps 997s another 2 -3 years and lots more miles not much more drop in price for trade in. GT3's no longer so new, probably MK2 on horison so its prices soften with miles and looming replacement. Gap to trade up much more acceptable.[][][]

 

[Grant]

ORIGINAL: okellyt
Yves - no you have weakend - step away from selling the car, you'll only regret it. unless of course your buying the Turbo or even better have one of the first GT2's in the UK on order....
Any other vehicle isn't worth it
Appologies to GT3 owners, I am not critsing the cars its jsut he 997 is so new the depreciation doesn't make sense for a GT3 swap until its a few years older.

Hiya Okellyt, I certainly have no issue with the logic that says if you are comparing any new car with a used car, clearly over the long term the older car will generally depreciate less! But the new 997S with X-51 cost the same price as GT3 with a decent spec & over the same term from new the 997S with X-51 will depreciate far more, fact!

But you did rather say (above) that the Turbo (all near list) or new GT2 were ok but the GT3 wasn't, that was the point I was making in not understanding your logic. Past form says the GT2 will drop like a stone as will the Turbo unfortunately, my 996TT went from 95k to 49k in 4 years, good for a top end sports car but still a 46k drop! The GT3 will also loose far to much but it will loose less, not because it is a better car, just because supply is more limited & the new model with PASM has a wider appeal!

Incidentally I was only joking about YvesD buying a 997GT3, clearly as with yourself the 997s with X-51 meets his needs & so it should, it's awesome car & I'm certainly not knocking your choice as I would be very happy with your car!

 

[YvesD]

Guys,

Regretably, the car is now listed for sale in the members for sale area if you are interested.

Regards

Yves []

 

[Dylan1]

hope the investment does well and youre back in a great car soon[]

 

[Julio Geordio]

Yves,

I'm following you. I have a 2nd trip to the Nordschleife on 26/8 for a day with Ron Simons and then I'm selling. I'm not taking the car on the track (using his Alfa 75's) but it will be the last road trip.

It's like knowing that there's an imminent bereavement in the family. Still undecided about the M3. Will prob go 2yr old M5, but keep an eye on the launch of a Mk2 997 GT3. And if circumstances change and I end up up with people carriers or diesel saloons for the next 45yrs at least I can sit in my rocking chair and tell my grandchildren that "once upon a time I had a 911........". Actually, by then, it'll be "once upon a time there was an iconic supercar called a 911"

ORIGINAL: YvesD

Guys,

Regretably, the car is now listed for sale in the members for sale area if you are interested.

Regards

Yves []

 

[YvesD]

Guys, its a done deal.

The car will be gone tonight ! []

I dont think tnat I will be able to bring myself to watch as she drives off down the road.

Fighting back the tears.

Yves

 

[Dylan1]

we share your pain[][][]
it took me 6 weeks last time before i was back in a new porsche,having promised myself(and SWMBO!)that we REALLY couldnt afford a porsche at this time[]
B****Y addictive cars[]