Sourcing 996 Turbo's.....

[robbosliding]

I've already posted asking the question which car next, the 997 C2S or a 996 turbo for my money. The logical thing to do is as many have advised, to drive them both and decided QED.....
The question I have is where to source a good turbo from, the OPC's aren't listing them on their locating facility, I guess speaking to them that they will have them coming in as trade in's. Does any one know of any blinders?
The clock is ticking, money burning hole in pocket etc.....

 

[kenwardc]

Hi there

I just bought one from Harbour Cars in or near Southampton. Nice bunch of guys and the car is a beaut! Have a look at www.harbourcars.com

..and as a follow-on from my last message - they have one in stock. I saw this one when I was there and it looks beautiful.

http://www.harbourcars.com/car/6/porsche-911-996-turbo-coupe/


Cheers
Chris

 

[phil993]

My old 996 turbo is for sale at RSJ Sportscars and I am surprised they are only asking £40k for it. Before I sold it I just bought a new full warranty from Porsche and had it serviced and it has the X50 power upgrade and aerokit. It's such a nice car I can't quite remember why I sold it....

http://www.rsjsportscars.co.uk/vehicles/porsche_911_996_turbo_x50_36_12.htm

 

[richard hall]

Hi Mathew

You dont say what area but that aside
you could do a lot worse than check out 911 virgin and as the previous poster has said RSJ in slough(nice car by the way)
I have found 911 to be very straightorward and honest, and RSJ are always getting glowing reports on Pistonheads
After my experiences I dont think I would bother Mr Porsche(OPC) ever again unless I was buying new
and please get a DME readout from the ECU( mileage and rev1,2) whoever you buy from

good luck and happy hunting

 

[robbosliding]

OK, thanks for that.

Whats a DME read out?

 

[unclewinks]

A dme check,is to see if car has hit the rev limiter or drop a gear to many times
911 virgin has facility's to do this paul

 

[Richard_Hamilton]

Also, on Turbos and 3.6 facelift cars the DME vehicle data stores the actual mileage. If a car has been clocked, it only alters the mileage in the instrument cluster, not the DME. (DME=Digitale Motor Elektronic - the Engine Control Unit)

 

[richard hall]

edited private message to rob
Hi Rob DME stands for Digital Motor Electronics In essence this is the ECU which is made by Bosch for Porsche A little known fact it would seem over here is that the ecu can be interrogated by the piwis testing system(Porsche's system) In the states they do it all the time If you go to Porsche They can interrogate your car for you it is called a working log Most people are aware that the ecu can record over revs In particular rev range 1 and rev range 2 Although and Richard Hamilton can confirm this with the latest 997 if think the now have 6 rev bands The purpose of this is clear originally rev range 1 was caught if you went to the rev limiter going up Rev range 2 was caught usually on a down shift and the engine was over revved i.e. you change from 6th to 1st at 70 mph this is considered more dangerous the reading you are given shows the number of engine ignitions and the hour at which this last occurred the engine ignitions I think have to be divided by 3 to give the number of seconds that this has occurred for on my working log I had 9905 ignitions in rev 1 last at 1002.2 hours of operation for rev 2 I had 2 ignitions at 900.7 hours there is also lots of other information on the working log engine number chassis number transmission number Vin number BUT the most important fact is the ECU logs the mileage the car has travelled this is considered by Porsche to be 100% accurate and inviolate I have become more of an 'expert' on this with my recent experience purchasing my car There are quite a few cars out there that have been adjusted I know that porche reading are well aware of this and it is always checked when they px a car Certain company's like 911 virgin and RSJ also have the piwis tester and as a matter of course check this on the cars before they go out and get sold
the durametric will tell you rev 1 and 2 but not the mileage which is really the critical bitor not as the case maybe
some people seem fairly relaxed about discrepancy as they suggest the cars are built to do many thousands of milesand in reality a few thousand probably means little bar servicing records

I would suggest there is a large emotional component to a car purchase for most of usand not an inconsiderable amount of money as well

Finding a discrepancy is akin to someone rubbing dog turd into your brand new expensive persian rug
That is why i would always recommend a dme readout for any modern porsche purchased even a secondhand one from an OPC
This feature is not available to 993's and back(and in this age of car the mileage is much less of an issue,as car condition etc comes into the equation)

Richard will be able to tell what year the ability to check mileage happened

certainly all 997 and later 996 i am just not sure abbout the earlier 996
Happy Hunting

 

[Richard_Hamilton]

ORIGINAL: richard hall
Richard will be able to tell what year the ability to check mileage happened

certainly all 997 and later 996 i am just not sure abbout the earlier 996

All 996's with Bosch Motronic DME version 7.8, which is all facelift 3.6 cars, Turbo, Mk2 GT3, GT2, etc.

The total distance is recorded in kilometers. On the cars I have checked, it normally varies from the instrument cluster reading by about 5%, as the speedometer/odometer over-reads by about that amount.

 

[njrichardson]

I had exactly the same decision and opted for the 996 Turbo Cab. Got an '04 one from a local trader who specialises in Porsches today. If it all works out after a few days I'll let you know. (he has more).

 

[njrichardson]

Well I've had my Turbo Cab for almost 2 weeks now. Had some very minor problems which were easily sorted with a trawl of eBay (missing UK Sat Nav CD, missing wheel centre cap, missing CD changer magazine and blue rear seat bases rather than black). Otherwise fantastic car in geat condition! The dealer has another one in stock in Seal Grey with 26000 miles. I'd recommend him... http://www.nash-konig.co.uk/282214/used-cars.htm

 

[Spy]

It seems that the 996 Turbo is the preferred choice between these two.

A slightly different comparison, which would you go for, a late 996 C4S or early 997 C2S - they are very close in price ?

I know the 997 is better looking from the front and has a more modern interior, but what about depreciation compared to the 996 C4S ?