Spacers on 951 Fuchs?
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PSH
PCGB Member
Hi Ian
Regarding your comment on the teledials....since you mention that the wheels you have don't fill the arches I'm assuming that you have the early chassis without ABS but with the later wheels, if so they will look awful when compared with the early deep dish teledials which is what you need. I'm not sure if 87 cars had this though, I bought a set of teledials once off an early 87 car thinking they would be the same as mine (86) , I didn't notice that they weren't until after refurbishing them and fitting to the car. If you can find early deep dish teledials grab them, they are rare now but IMHO the most sexy looking wheels for the early cars....they add greatly to the cars aggressive looking nature..
Pete
Regarding your comment on the teledials....since you mention that the wheels you have don't fill the arches I'm assuming that you have the early chassis without ABS but with the later wheels, if so they will look awful when compared with the early deep dish teledials which is what you need. I'm not sure if 87 cars had this though, I bought a set of teledials once off an early 87 car thinking they would be the same as mine (86) , I didn't notice that they weren't until after refurbishing them and fitting to the car. If you can find early deep dish teledials grab them, they are rare now but IMHO the most sexy looking wheels for the early cars....they add greatly to the cars aggressive looking nature..
Pete
944 man
Active member
Yes. You need to be sure of your car's model year too. Year of registration or manufacture aren't relevant: its the Porsche model year that counts. The pertinent years are 1986 and 1987.
Look at the 10th character in your VIN. G=MY86 and H=MY87. There aren't any '85 Turbos and nor are there any '85.5' Turbos - it's a stupid American term which came about because they can't understand the concept of model years. All Turbos are series two cars, so 1986 model year onwards - some were built in 1985, and some 1987 model year Turbos were built in 1986.
If you have fitted 1987> 16" Telephone Dial wheels to your 1986 car then they will look ridiculous, so I doubt that this is the case. If you look at the valve you'll see the rim width and the wheel's offset (8 52.3 for e.g.). You need to see 7 23 and 8 23 and these wheels will have part numbers 951.362.114.00 & 951.362.116.00 (ending .01 will be the later offset replacements, which don't suit your car).
951 type Fuchs wheels will have the same offset for both front and rear (ET23), unlike 911 Fuchs wheels which usually have ET11 rears. The rear isn't particularly sensitive to track so you can space them out to fill the arches more if that's what you like, but a wider track will promote understeer. I wouldn't fit spacers to the front for cosmetic reasons.
Look at the 10th character in your VIN. G=MY86 and H=MY87. There aren't any '85 Turbos and nor are there any '85.5' Turbos - it's a stupid American term which came about because they can't understand the concept of model years. All Turbos are series two cars, so 1986 model year onwards - some were built in 1985, and some 1987 model year Turbos were built in 1986.
If you have fitted 1987> 16" Telephone Dial wheels to your 1986 car then they will look ridiculous, so I doubt that this is the case. If you look at the valve you'll see the rim width and the wheel's offset (8 52.3 for e.g.). You need to see 7 23 and 8 23 and these wheels will have part numbers 951.362.114.00 & 951.362.116.00 (ending .01 will be the later offset replacements, which don't suit your car).
951 type Fuchs wheels will have the same offset for both front and rear (ET23), unlike 911 Fuchs wheels which usually have ET11 rears. The rear isn't particularly sensitive to track so you can space them out to fill the arches more if that's what you like, but a wider track will promote understeer. I wouldn't fit spacers to the front for cosmetic reasons.
George Elliott
New member
The early cars were quite narrow track out of the factory, thats where form followed function and arrived at.
I'm guessing it drives nicely Ian? Mine did.
After that, I'd agree not spacing the front, and only maybe and only slightly the rears.
Possibly take 15mm out of the ride height, it could handle better and fill the arch more in a different way?
George
944t
I'm guessing it drives nicely Ian? Mine did.
After that, I'd agree not spacing the front, and only maybe and only slightly the rears.
Possibly take 15mm out of the ride height, it could handle better and fill the arch more in a different way?
George
944t
George Elliott
New member
That sounds like a great stance[8D].....pic's of same...[8D][8D]
George
George
CarreraRSR
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JagdHamster
New member
Offsets will do that to you; they're a barking-mad subject
George Elliott
New member
Sutters, the nice red car is an early offset, (and its lowered slightly too, i'd say 25mm. I'd say it has about a 10mm front and 20mm rear spacer.)
As said above, if it was not an early 220 version, those fuchs would be sticking out etc.
If it helps, picture it like this:
on the early cars, viewed from the front or the rear, the disc's are closer together
on the late cars, they are wider apart
The outside face of the tyres are approx the same width apart on early or late version.
Given that info,
if you take the early rims, and put them on a late car they stick out
If you take the late rims, and put them on an early car, they stick in (so much so, they actually wont fit (without spacers))
good luck
George
944t
As said above, if it was not an early 220 version, those fuchs would be sticking out etc.
If it helps, picture it like this:
on the early cars, viewed from the front or the rear, the disc's are closer together
on the late cars, they are wider apart
The outside face of the tyres are approx the same width apart on early or late version.
Given that info,
if you take the early rims, and put them on a late car they stick out
If you take the late rims, and put them on an early car, they stick in (so much so, they actually wont fit (without spacers))
good luck
George
944t
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