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kdp99p

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can anyone hepl.the steering on my 1989 2.7 is heavy to park and drive at slow speed.i have checked oil level and belt condition. both ok.steering seems to not want to self center but not all the time.i have revved the engine at rest to check if pas pump is lazzy but still the same, any help or thoughts would be great ......kenny
 
ok well they are all relatively heavy compared to modern cars with PAS

tyre pressure & alignment first
 
yes going between several cars I would say that the 944s with PAS feel almost like they have no PAS at all compared to our Mini and Passat.

Having said that I very much like the weighting of the 944 steering on the open road!
 
My other half is convinced I'm lying, and the S2 has no PAS. After driving her Legacy I'm almost in agreement. They are different to new cars, and better for it IMO.

I'd suggest trying another local car just in case it's normal. As Edd say, tyre pressures are important on a 944, and easy to check.
 
Does it self centre OK at speed? The steering does feel heavy when manouvering, but otherwise it feels nicely weighted imo. I did test drive a 2.7 that had very heavy PAS, to the point that it felt very hard to turn at low speeds, but I would assume something was wrong with that one.

Mine wants to turn in more at low speeds like parking, but at all normal speeds it will self centre OK. I'm sure I read that is a normal effect of positive caster, but I could be wrong.
 
I read talk on here of the 944 PAS being considered still heavy but to be honest in a week of driving it, it has taken a read of this thread to remind me it is supposed to be heavy!

My other car is a heavy US V8 with no PAS - no that IS heavy.

The more positive caster the better the self-centering effect - kinda like a shopping trolley ...

 
Agree... when my girlfriend tried mine she asked why it didn't have power steering.

Now for heavy steering. When I was growing up in Canada we had a Chevy Suburban without power steering! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Suburban#Eighth_generation_.281973.E2.80.931991.29



ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty

My other half is convinced I'm lying, and the S2 has no PAS. After driving her Legacy I'm almost in agreement. They are different to new cars, and better for it IMO.

I'd suggest trying another local car just in case it's normal. As Edd say, tyre pressures are important on a 944, and easy to check.
 
They are heavier than a normal car, despite them having PAS (I am sure that my 205 is not at all heavier at standstill even without PAS! My current Turbo was heavier than my S2 was though (but not unbearable IMO).

Regarding your car, I would look at tyre pressures, along with getting the castor looked at (Someone did put up a table showing what a 944 geometry setup should resemble.
 
Prove it is working by taking the power steering belt off and driving it without... assuming it is working, that'll show you what real heavy steering is like! That said... I usually run my S2 with the belt off - I prefer the extra feel without the power steering, and I can live with the heavier steering for parking - it's not that bad. Early cars didn't have it, and after paying a fortune to fit it on one of my first, I wished I hadn't bothered. Besides... I have a Series 2 Landrover to prepare myself for!
 
I am not sure if I could commit to having a 944 with no PAS! But then I have only really driven a frontrunner on 17" wheels. The one non PAS car I drove on 15s was fine though mind you :).

IMO, one item which can improve the weight of the steering (or at least the perception of it) is a different steering wheel. I am still quite surprised at much nicer at low speed it is to drive my Turbo with the chunkier ClubSport (CS) wheel. Parking the car, moving around tight spaces in narrow streets is no longer the big chore that it was (it still has more weight than a modern car though). I put it down to my hand having more grip on the wheel as opposed to attempting to grip and yank the wheel around, but most half decent aftermarket wheels should be fine there. Maybe the CS wheel is lighter than the old item, but it is hard to say (and would this really have such an effect?).

Saying that, it will also help in keeping the Lozenge wheel tidier should you wish to refit it (shows/sale time etc.):).

The above may have resulted in me looking for a different steering wheel for the Stag as well (they are skinny as standard and come with PAS).
 

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