Stone chips

[299TKO]

Hi all, As mentioned in my last post picked up a lovely bouncing stone chip on the roof of my car Sunday whilst driving it back to the garage. I know this is down to the individual but as enthusiasts I just wanted to gage opinion. At what point would you have the car blown over? would anyone do it for a single stone chip here and there? When buying a car if the owner tells you it had been painted to get rid of stone chips would this put anyone off buying it? As the stone chip is near front screen seal how would even a Porsche approved paintshop get round not leaving tell tell marks? thanks

 

[garyw]

I think the majority of Porsche's, even sports cars on the used forecourts have been blown over to remove the stonechips they incur.. To me I'd expect it when buying.. I have quiet a few and have no worries over it, but nor am I a garage queen.. The car gets used and sadly a consequence of that is stonechips.. I have a bit of a mark on my recently resprayed front bumper from a cars numberplate in front of me falling off, smashing into the ground prior to smashing into the front of my car...[&:] ! We were on a charity trackday in the region of 150mph, so part of the experience in my eyes ( but still slightly miffed)- and it was a GT-R [] garyw

 

[okellyt]

Wait till you see how much Porsche Approved body repairers charge for respraying even part of a car before you decide how many stone chips constitutes a necessary respray. If you use your 997, the front bonnet and bumper take quite a pounding with stone chips and marks over time.

 

[Dave Wilkinson]

From my relatively limited experience of bodyshop workings I'm pretty sure you'll find that the terms "blow over" and "Porsche Approved" will never come together in the same sentence!! Any work involving paintwork, particularly on any horizontal surface, will entail a complete panel repaint. That will include a full primer paint, colour coat and clear lacquer. A Porsche Approved bodyshop will almost certainly remove the front and rear screens in order to repaint the roof. If a chip in the paint is just that - i.e. no visible dent - then the best approach is to touch it up with touch up paint using the best techniques to achieve an acceptable finish until such times as the extent of the damage and/or the contents of the wallet can justify getting the job done properly. Dents are more difficult to live with but, even so, there are PDR* operatives out there who can work wonders. * - I have this uncontrollable tendency to refer to these people as Dentless Paint Removal specialists rather than Paintless Dent Removal and I'm sure they wouldn't be impressed!!! Regards Dave

 

[Lancerlot]

You can do quite a reasonable repair yourself with just a touch up brush and some polish. [] Use the brush to fill in the "divot" with paint and gradually build up the level over a period of days until the repair stands slightly proud of the surface, allow to fully harden, then polish back to blend in. Taking care, you'll be surprised how good the job is. [] Careful if you use T Cut as the polish since this is quite abrasive. [&:] Give it a try! [8|] Regards, Clive

 

[299TKO]

Thanks for the replies guys. I'll no doubt get a quote then decide I'm better off with a touch-p pen.

 

[jdpef356]

ORIGINAL: Dave Wilkinson From my relatively limited experience of bodyshop workings I'm pretty sure you'll find that the terms "blow over" and "Porsche Approved" will never come together in the same sentence!! Any work involving paintwork, particularly on any horizontal surface, will entail a complete panel repaint. That will include a full primer paint, colour coat and clear lacquer.

There in the highlighted area above is the problem. Porsche (and all other makers) as far as I am aware use a one colour primer coat. So when things get that bad an area needs painting ask the people doing the job to add some of the top colour (ie red car add red to the primer paint coat) and then paint and laquer. Doing this will at least ensure that when your next stone chips comes along it will not stand out like a sore thumb.[] Thats why you dont see so many silver cars with the dreaded stone rash! [8|] Its panto season so all together - Oh yes they do - they have just as many but are not as visible![]

 

[blueSL]

Key to touching in chips in my experience is to warm the paint so that it flows freely and to use a tiny brush to work the paint in; the typical brushes on touch-in sticks are useless.

 

[Robin M]

Also warm the area you intend to paint. The idea is to get the smallest touch of paint that runs to fill the hole and dries immediately. This helps to prevent a paint blob or run.

 

[DSM]

ORIGINAL: zen4590 What's the general concensus on paint protection film (e.g. Venture Sheild....other products also available !) ? I just got my Turbo a couple of weeks ago and am keen to keep it's as yet, stone-chip free (but probably re-painted at the dealer as it's 3 yrs old) front-end as it is. Always a problem if you use them as you say. I remember on day returning home from dealer with my brand new, gleaming black Boxster S (many yrs ago), got a stinger of a chip right in the middle of the bonnet from a car passing in opposite direction. I was not impressed !!

My C2S was Ventureshielded over the front, back to about 500mm up the bonnet, when it was new in September 2007. One small mark in the film, not through, since then, in 11000M. Nothing else and the film is still neat and clear. I would recommend it, though you can't extend the OPC Warranty with it on.

 

[299TKO]

I had paintshield on my X5, I could always see an orange peel effect

 

[jonathanw]

I had Paintshield applied at my OPC pre-delivery and am going to put up one hell of a fight if I can't take out the warranty next year. Although there is some dulling of the paint shine I think it is well worth and there are absolutely no marks. I have had various paint films on 3 previous Porsches and would not consider a new Porsche without the shield. Original ones were only half the bonnet with an obvious edge but the current film is the entire front of the car including the wings and bumper.

 

[Alex L]

I wanted to put shield on when I picked up my car but Paintshield is a long way away from me and they wanted to charge me a fortune to transport it up there and back (ie. they wouldn't come to my OPC and do it there). Then there was a local company that did Ventureshield but they broke their partnership with them at the last minute before picking up the car and then told me VS was total rubbish anyway. So in the end I had to go with the stone-chip option [&:] No biggy though as I have lots of chips nowhere near the areas that I would have covered anyway. Things like the front and rear wheel arches, the roof etc.

 

[jdpef356]

Why not go along and take a look for free - someone will also finish up with £1000.00 worth of treatemnt FOC. Extracts from John McGirls 996 Reg section below. Also see PP - but contact JMG if you are intending to go. --------------------- Ventureshield – 30th January 2010[/b] [/b]John McGirl 996 Register secretary has kindly invited Regional members to join in this 996 Register event. Brief details as sent to me by JMG are as follows but for full details see the 996 Register section of this issue of PP. ---------- Sat 30th January – Ventureshield Porsche body coating open day with combines offer of clay shoot with hotel lunch nearby – Sharnbrook, Bedford.Once again all members all Regions-Registers are welcome to join us for a combined workshop visit plus the thrill of Clay shooting at nearby Sporting Targets followed by 3 course lunch (£15 PPn) at the Sharnbrook Hotel, home of the Italian car show. A lucky member will receive the offer of a complimentary Ventureshield product fitment to their Porsche to the value of £1000. Further details via email please on 996@porscheclubgb.com family and friends welcomed and Ventureshield is the current body protection coating you see advertised with a Carrera GT within Porsche Post

 

[Robin M]

My OPC knows had the front of the car paintshelded and have not said it can't have an extended warranty. The paint is not part of the extended warranty so it shouldn't be an issue. I guess I will find out when I ask them next time I am there.

 

[johnwoods41]

use a cocktail stick to fill the chips! bit by bit, and build it up, you could also contact a detailer, who could fill them proud, wet sand and then polish out with a rotary a guilde on here as to what a detailer would do http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=20127&highlight=sone+chip+rep%5Bair+guide