supaguard

[vimal]

I'm picking up my new turbo on the 1st March and I'm not sure whether to go for the OPC offered supaguard treatment (for just under £400). The dealership seem horrified that I'm thinking of not going for it - but most of the car forums I've looked at say its a waste of money - which is all a bit confusing !
Any thoughts gratefully received.

thanks

Vimal

 

[Mark_Bennett]

ORIGINAL: vimal
The dealership seem horrified that I'm thinking of not going for it

Only because it's £300 profit for them...


Edit:

Random selected item from ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/supagard-supergard-supaguard-superguard-car-valeting_W0QQitemZ130080855777QQihZ003QQcategoryZ72201QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

[Guest]

Complete waste of money. Buy some Zaino or Zymol and follow their instructions.

 

[THX911]

ORIGINAL: vimal

The dealership seem horrified that I'm thinking of not going for it

Ask the dealer if they think it is that good then why doesn't Porsche supply the cars with it pre-applied? Get the car a couple of layers of a good carnauba wax while it is fresh out of the showroom and then top it up regularly. Also don't believe that Zymol is the best carnauba wax out there either...

 

[bobfair]

I collected my Turbo in Janauary. I gave my OPC a jar of the Zymol I wanted used and they applied it for free. Everyone has their own idea on what is the best wax but for me Zymol works everytime

 

[Rotorhead]

I wouldn't say supaguard protection is any better or worse than any of the polishing systems, autoglym and zymol included.

Seems a bit 'off' though to be paying for the car to be polished pre-delivery - that's the OPC's job. If you are going for any of these systems, have it done at the first service

At, say, £150 it may be worthwhile because you do get a full valet, goody bag of items and, useful if you have a light coloured interior, a warranty should it be marked and it is not be removeable. I know this because a friend put a chinese takeaway on the seat of his 'savannah' 996 and it stained the seat and carpet and he was able to get the damage repaired at his OPC under the supaguard warranty.

 

[Mark_Bennett]

ORIGINAL: oliver

... a friend put a chinese takeaway on the seat of his 'savannah' 996 and it stained the seat and carpet and he was able to get the damage repaired at his OPC under the supaguard warranty.

So basically the Superguard didn't work?

 

[Rotorhead]

ORIGINAL: Mark Bennett

ORIGINAL: oliver

... a friend put a chinese takeaway on the seat of his 'savannah' 996 and it stained the seat and carpet and he was able to get the damage repaired at his OPC under the supaguard warranty.

So basically the Superguard didn't work?

No. Mind you, I reckon some of the colourings in chinese/indian takeaaways would penetrate galvanised steel [:-],

 

[Mark_Bennett]

Very true!
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[THX911]

ORIGINAL: oliver
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Seems a bit 'off' though to be paying for the car to be polished pre-delivery - that's the OPC's job. If you are going for any of these systems, have it done at the first service
...

Sorry, disagree on this; at first service (2 years for the latest models) you would have already introduced several swirl marks, light scratches etc, IMHO it should be pre-delivery so that the wax can protect the paint from the start.
Also note the difference between polishes and wax; As far as I understand Polishes shines and possibly remove minor imperfections/swirl marks where as the wax protects... And no wax protection will help if you use sponge or clothes which can pick up grit or dust from the water bucket or the car itself when washing...

 

[ianreeves]

Check out www.detailingworld.com

It has many people who go into much depth on cleaning cars !
The Superguard is not worth anything. There are much better systems about. My advice is not to pay and get a 'detailer' to come and sort the car. The cost should be about the same, if not less. The marks/swirl marks can quite often be caused by dealer washing !

 

[vimal]

Thanks for the responses. The consensus seems to be that supaguard - though probably ok - isn't worth the OPC retail price. I've also had a look at the "detailing world" site (which is eye opening to say the least) - and will be going down the private detailer route rather than OPC supaguard.

vimal

 

[ianreeves]

Indeed, some mad mad car cleaning people on there.

 

[Elliot Davies]

Supagard protection on the paint is good, her new mx5 has it from new and she paid £300 for a full application inside and out and during the salty road weather a hose almost got rid of the salt on the paint without rubbing, no not worth £400 OPC price IMO but watch ebay and buy your own supagard paint sponge like this one
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/supagard_W0QQitemZ270091086253QQihZ017QQcategoryZ72201QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
also the supagard wheel protector is very good and works well, better than the autoglym version IMO
please note this paint protector is very easily applied and easy off, its like milky water and works like rainx for paint,

search ebay and note the spelling 'SUPAGARD'

Ive 4 sponges on the shelf for the future use, and my daily car has it applied

 

[snarf]

I had Supagard on my S Type. Have to say I was very happy with the quality but it's something you can buy and apply yourself at a fraction of the cost of the dealer price. There's a Supagard (note spelling) web site where you can get details.

Before acquiring my 997 I did a lot of forum based back ground reading and decided to opt for Zaino this time. Zaino finish is undoubtably superior but downside is that its much more labour intensive and more expensive.

 

[Alex Postan]

Get the guys from Permagard to give your car the treatment. Whatever it is, their service is second to none and the product is far better than some overpriced wax like Slimeol.

 

[snarf]

ORIGINAL: Elliot Davies

. . . supagard wheel protector is very good and works well, better than the autoglym version IMO . .

I have to disagree, in my experience the wheels showed noticably higher levels of pitting after I used the Supagard wheel cleaner and protection. My recommendation would be to just apply the same Supagard polish to the wheels as used on the body.

 

[Monty2]

Not knowing any better and without opening the question to any forum at the time of buying my Lapis Blue Cayenne S I got the Supaguard price down (sub £400) in 05 and had it applied. Note the colour as I think dark colours suffer environmental marking more than the lighter finishes.
For the first 4 to 6 months the car was easy to wash and dry, after that I thought it looked a bit dull so went the Zymol chocolate smelling cleaner followed by Titanium wax it polished up a dream, then the bird muck and bugs started eating through the wax and really left a pitted surface in the lacquer which I never really managed to get smooth. I didn't have any of that when the Supaguard was still covering the car. In dec I swopped cars and now have a used 997S I didn't quibble on the Supaguard price this time and after these few winter months the car cleans up really easily with most of the water running off after rinsing leaving no water marks, I don't have a fancy filter on my tap either.
I've noted the thread for Supaguard and will look into getting hold of it myself for future applications. With the Supaguard I also picked up a warranty for the paint finish although I need to re read as on the day my mind was set on more pressing things like driving the damn fine beast.

I tried zymol on my guards red Boxster S but it just didn't leave a good finish, I then tried Meguires 3 part process wax and still wasn't happy, then I spent a fair bit on Swissol cleaner and Zuffenhausen wax, brilliant but only on red as it didn't come up as well on Lapis Blue.

I'm sure someone will explain the differences in the waxes vs Supaguard but I'm only giving info from my personal experiences.

Cheers