The Market ?

[Suffolk944]

I keep umming and aahing about changing my 944 for something else but looking at likes of Pistonheads its very hard to figure out the "going rate" in the current market for my car as prices seem to be all over the place, so thought I would canvas opinion here amongst the knowledgable [].

Am sure I will get as many different values as those who contribute but here goes anyway.

She is a 1990 model, 85,000 miles full service history with mods as per my sig below. Belts changed 2007, bodywork fine other than the occasional stonechip. Everything works as it should escept the aircon as the condensor has a hole in it and to be honest have spent money on things like new engine mounts and power steering rack rather than that. No doubt if I keep her I will get round to sorting it one day just not been a priority.

Wouldn't want to ask for a stupidly high figure (though I would say she is a pretty good example imho) but equally dont want to short change myself should I go ahead, so any help much appreciated.

 

[pauly]

You haven't had it long have you, it's another one I considered and quite a few people rated it, I think the market may have dipped a bit but since you've spent some money on it I reckon it's worth what you gave for it still.

 

[pauljmcnulty]

Jeez - another one who's only just bought the car!

I'm going to be as rude to you as the people who have offered on my house have been. You'll have lost a huge percentage of what you paid, but you'll be saving that same percentage when you buy so it's irrelevant what price you sell for. Say, you paid £10K for the car but sell for £2K, you've lost £8k. If you're buying a £20K car for £11K you might feel like you've been shafted but you'll have £1K in your pocket and a better car. [8|]

Why you'd want to sell a really good example of one of the the best performance bargains out there only begs one question. What is the replacement going to be? [8D]

 

[Black_JPN]

Tidy looking motor. What's the interior like?

 

[pauly]

I don't need another one but I'd give you £6k for it and have it as my daily runabout. []




At least that gives you a starting point to fend off the real p*ss takers.

On PH.

 

[homesea]

Jon could do a swop on a nice Zermatt silver car??

In all seriousness let me know when you put it up for sale, as I love that car.

 

[Hilux]

Its a bit like houses, its what the market thinks its worth and you have to match a buyer that is looking for one with cash to burn.

Not an easy thing when you see what you can buy out there for under 10K (Boxters etc) so I must admit I have been sniffing around the market and tyre kicked a coupla cars.

My mates got a fully loaded SAAB convertible (dunno what model exactly - I`m not overly interested) but I know he paid some 34K about 16 months ago and he can only get 14K for it!!! and another mate has a `rari 360 spyder and an AM Vantage - dont even go near him if you want talk about car depreciation [8|][8|]

 

[peanut]

for rare and exceptional classic cars such as this I should have thought it was worth whatever someone is prepared to pay for it. If you don't need to sell it for the space or money then its just a question of holding out for the price you want to get for it.

If buyers know you need to sell they will haggle or walk away. I would only want to sell my car to a fellow enthusiast who appreciates the condition and care that has gone into the car and values the car as I do. Its not like there are another 6 cars out there in your area in this condition

 

[Suffolk944]

The only reason I have an itch to try something else is that I had DHX for five or so years (good to see the old girl again Tom hope she is behaving herself now) which is a long long time for me to have any one car.

I got my current one just before the last Frontrunner event having originally planned to look for something else and while it is as great as they all are, I dont feel as if its in anyway a new experience for me really. Would be daft to say I am bored with such a fine car as a 944 Turbo (and I am not) just keep fancying trying something different. No doubt would regret selling her as many people do so not quite at that point yet...Alternative would be to plough more mod money into her just not sure if thats a route I want to go further down either.

Didn't start this thread as one of those you see on the PH Porsche forum that are along the lines of "I cant believe my car wont sell for a gazillion pounds as thats what I believe its worth" and I know all cars have taken a hit and its all relative anyway just as I said dont want to over or under cook any asking price. Guess at the end of the day its just a case of plumping on a value and see what happens. For the record I paid a little under £8k for her rightly or wrongly.

The interior has has linen leather sports seats and the 10 speaker stereo option and looks a bit like below, except she now has one those RS three spoke steering wheels.

As for what I may get in its place will keep that to myself as no doubt my potential choices will lead to a chorus of derision, though one option is another front engined Porsche model. []

I an ideal world would keep the 944 and get something else as well. Am sure could sort out some money to do thgat but the cost of maintaining two classics as well as my everyday car may be more than my budget could happily cope with and wouldn't want to skimp on upkeep either.

 

[pauly]

Jon,
What do you think the present market value of your car is ?.

Paul.

 

[Jonny B]

Im guessing you'd be asking around the 6-7 mark. V nice motor. Im very caught between jumping for a black S4 next month (just spotted one for 6.5k that sounds perrfect) or a turbo like this. I think the sound of the V8 is going to win. Im struggling to find advice on the S4, the 928 forum is erm, well quiet!!
Some test driving needed.
Be interested to hear what your going to ask...

 

[Suffolk944]

Guess I would pitch it at around the £7k mark "£7250 ono ? " and see how it went. Whatever the value worst thing about selling the cars is the hassle from time wasters and dreamers [&:] (oh and agencies)

 

[poprock]

ORIGINAL: Jonny B

Im very caught between jumping for a black S4 next month (just spotted one for 6.5k that sounds perrfect) or a turbo like this. I think the sound of the V8 is going to win. Im struggling to find advice on the S4, the 928 forum is erm, well quiet!!

If you can find it, take a look at the latest issue of Excellence, the American Porsche magazine. The main feature article is a comparison test of a late-model 944 Turbo against a 928S4.

 

[Frenchy]

Keep it period ! lovely car, i had a B5 Audi S4 Avant great car really well screwed together but too "soft" suspension wise thgough that could be remedied.
When you have sold and regretted it, finding another good one will be hard work and expensive.

 

[Suffolk944]

As there have been a few expressions of interest from those on the forum, have decided to say that if there is any true enthusiast here genuinely interested in her then am willing to sell her onto them.

Have settled at the moment for a figure of £7250 ono which I realise is closer to the top end of the current market than the lower but given her condition, decent modifications plus the work have done sorting a couple of things since I got her is not unreasonable imho.

I wont be putting her up for general sale via PH or anywhere else as am not so needing/wanting to sell her that am willing to put up with the time wasters and chancers that I would no doubt have to fend off if I did so.

If anyone is interested then by all means send me an email. If it proves not the case (and for the right price !) then will keep her and look to instigate either plan B, C or D.

 

[John Sims]

I know exactly what you mean Jon as I go through the same dilemma periodically.

At least you haven't ploughed money into the car (unlike some of us [8|]) potentially going further up a blind alley. But then what to get instead?

While modern Porsches are becoming very cheap they are by no means as engaging as a toughed up '44. Granted modern cars are more relaxing over long distances but the 44 is more entertaining. Both get you from A to B but with the '44 you arrive with a smile compared to just being bored.

I am assuming your references are towards a 928 [] Why would you even consider such a thing? Prepare a list of what is good and bad with the 944 - reverse the headings and you have a 928, sort of. If you want a big, loafing, V8 cruiser get a Jag.

 

[Suffolk944]

Well "Plan B" woudl be to plough a load more money into her to hopefully keep things fresh but am struggling with that concept due to the money invested : market value ratio not being overly encouraging if I did so.

The alternatives are a bit tricky I grant. Not a Boxster fan so even a 3.2S doesn't float my boat really. I have long had a hankering for a 928 and I guess the fact that its positives and negatives are inverse to that of a '44 is part of the appeal ie would be a proper change. Would have to be a manual one though I would think, then change its ecu stick on a RMB exhaust and I think it would be a lot of fun (though the visits to the petrol pumps wouldn't be !)

I agree with you about Jags - I certainly would love a V8 XJR, they are stonking value and are very much on my radar. Dont know what the Jag owners clubs are like though.

Another major reason to keep the '44 is that I really like the community both here on the forum and at the various events and thats a hard thing to give up. Thats why "Plan C" would be not to sell but to get something else as well though not sure my bank manager woudl thank me for that.Not so much the cost of buying something else as there are real bargains to be had right now of course but rather the upkeep costs of another car might be tricky.

 

[John Sims]

ORIGINAL: Suffolk944

....Another major reason to keep the '44 is that I really like the community both here on the forum and at the various events and thats a hard thing to give up. .....

That has also been one of main the reasons I've kept mine - quite sad really.[8|]

Perhaps we should all hang on to our 944's until Cayman S's are 10K a time and then all move to Caymans. []

I had a little prod with an S Type R the other evening. It was certainly acceptably quick from 80 to 100 for a big 4 door saloon. I had the edge on him (though not by much) but I wouldn't move into the heady zone of instant licence removal so couldn't demonstrate ultimate satisfaction. They are stupidly cheap these days.

 

[pauly]

ORIGINAL: Suffolk944

If anyone is interested then by all means send me an email. If it proves not the case (and for the right price !) then will keep her and look to instigate either plan B, C or D.

Do you actually reply to mail ?. Perhaps if you mentioned the 500 laps the car has done around the Nurburgring it may stimulate some interest.

 

[jr2015]

Hi, Nice car! By current standards you don`t have a massive ammount of cash tied up in her, as you`ve noted it`s a buyers market, so you`ll not get a good offer very quickly if at all, why not put her on a lower mileage policy and buy a runabout for the hacking about ( £750 buys a lot of car these days) and wait for the market to recover before you sell? As for a 928, how deep is your wallet, they are horrendously complex and expensive money pits.
jr