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Things going much better now...

colin129

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Happy to report I am now in posession of the the service book (see my thread 'still not fallen in love') and whilst I do not have all the MOTs, 2002 - 2007 are missing, I was able to get recent history off the VOSA website (last 3 years since the system went electronic) and the rest of the MOT mileages are confirmed by the invoices which show dates and mileages. The garage that has been servicing the car for the last 6 years supplied me with a copy invoice for the one I had missing and I have arranged to take the service book down to them to have the 2 missing stamps put in (the owner must have forgotten to take the service book with him, but I have the invoices).

I have had the front and rear screens re-sealed and I am well advanced on the drying up process, I have used the newspaper under the carpets idea, suggested on here, and it seems to be working well.

The only thing I need now is a new speedo as the mile/odometer on mine has stuck fast. Anyone got a spare one in working order? I plan to do a photo history of the speedo change for authenticity, showing both speedos together. Are they difficult to remove and replace?

I'm enjoying the drive much more too, noticably faster than the S2. A recent overtaking manoeuvre which would have had me wincing very slightly in the S2 was dispatched with comfort, for example.

Anyway, to the point of this rambling. I remember seeing in PP a few years ago a list of option codes for the 944S2, does anyone know a link for a list of 964 option codes, I have:

C16 330 425 438 494 567 650 10011

I know C16 is a UK car, I also have leather, full electric drivers seat, electric sunroof and system 1 alarm.

Be nice to have a full list to browse through though, anyone have a link?

Heres to a great summer ahead (and winter, spring and autumn)
 
Great news Colin. Pleased that things are turning out fine and folks are helping you rebuild that history. Sure sounds like it's helping you connect with your car.
Enjoy your drive ........
 
C16 330 425 438 494 567 650 10011

Here's what one of the well know web sites says for most of them

330 Radio Blaupunkt Toronto SQR 46, All models, not for USA
425 Rear wiper
438 Comfort seat right
494 2 speakers on back shelf
494 Amplifier system
567 Windshield green graduated tint
650 Sunroof
C16 UK LUX spec: tinted windows, metallic paint, and a few other goodies.

and here's the link http://www.kindel.com/porsche/options.asp

Ian.
 
Colin,

you may not need to change the speedo, below I haved copied a DIY one of our friends across the pond did. May be it'll work for you.
PROBLEM:

Your speedometer works, your odometer quit. Chances are, your drive gear has given up. The popular story is that you hit the trip meter reset while the car was in motion. While it is entirely possible that that particular event was the event that caused the actual failure, the root cause lies at the VDO factory. The tiny, little, 15 tooth planetary gear that drives the odometer and trip meter from the speedo sensor has turned into a soft jello like rubber over the years due to excessive heat and a corrosive oil lubricant that has turned that essential gear into mush. The separation of a couple teeth from that gear has been inevitable.

Your repair choices consist of sending it to a reputable speedo shop and dump a couple hundred bucks into a rebuild and be sans speedo for at least a week, or give it a run yourself. Replacing the gear is NOT that difficult. No crazy tools are needed. No special skills are needed. But it is risky. The most finnicky point of the rebuild is dealing with removal and reinstall of the needle pointer onto its shaft. The shaft of the needle is tiny... very tiny. Break that and you are looking at replacing your speedo. These aren't cheap speedo's... the broken gear is.

NOTICE: This DIY procedure will NOT help you change the mileage on your odometer. The main assembly holding the numerical wheels in place is not easily opened. You will not be able to roll your odometer forward OR back. Trust me... I tried. I wanted to add a bunch of miles to get back to reality, but there is no easy way to get the numbers free wheeling. Furthermore, tampering with the mileage on your odometer is illegal... or something like that.

Anyway, I did this on my first attempt with relative ease and great success. Your results may vary. Don't attempt at home... unless you are willing to accept the risk of ruining your gauge.

STEP 1: Odometer Removal.
Using a cloth covered screwdriver, gently pry the speedometer out from your dashboard. The rubber ring around the edge comes out too so get under that with the flat screwdriver and pry out. Do NOT use the neighboring gauge as a leverage point. The black trim ring is very easily scratched. Once you get it started you should be able to get your hands on it and pull it out. Unplug the connector and head to a clean work area.

STEP 2: Disassembly

TRIM RING: Remove the rubber grippy retainer ring. Remove the 4 screws from the back of the unit.

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Now the soft metal trim ring needs removed by gently prying around the entire edge of the assembly to bend/lift the edge over the lip of the outside housing. This isn't pretty, but go slow. Be careful not to scratch the ring beyond the lip. You won't see what you have done to it once the rubber retainer goes back on so don't worry about chewing it up a little bit. Keep slowly prying around the edge until it can be pulled out.

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STEP 3: Trip meter reset button removal

There is a thick post over the thin post of the reset button. Support the button assembly below and pull the top off. This will take some pressure, but be sure to brace the assembly from below so you don't pull too hard on the lever where it clips to the drive gears.

Note where the shaft gets thinner... that is where it separates.

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STEP 4: Speedometer needle removal

This is the trickiest part of the job. The needle is pressed onto a shaft that is extremely thin. It feels like a pretty tough metal, but you HAVE to be careful here. Do not pull straight up. Do not put any torque on the shaft. Rotate the speedometer needle clockwise until it hits a stop point. Gently continue to rotate the needle whil lifting up gently at the same time. The friction is all that is holding the needle to the shaft. Keep turning and prying until the needle comes off. Do not force it. I don't know that that shaft assembly is user replaceable.

Note: See how small the shaft is:
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STEP 5: Disassembly

You've come this far, there is nothing stopping you now. Take the two screws out of the faceplate.

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Remove the circuit board.

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Remove the motor.

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STEP 6: The guts

Once the motor comes out, you will get to the drive gear and pod. Inside the pod is going to be your broken gear. Replace it with your new gear.

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See the broken gear - and its yellow decay - compared to the new gear.

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STEP 7: Reassembly

This is completely reverse of everything else. Nothing is too tricky. Continue to take your time paying particular attention to the needle shaft. When reinstalling the speedo needle, make sure you rotate while gently pushing down. Never simply compress the needle onto the shaft. Once it is in firm enough, use the stop points at max speed and 0 mph/kph to realign the needle with 0. Once everything is back together, also gently recompress the trim ring around the back of the speedo housing. You could use a black permanent marker to cover any scratches. Plug the unit back into the dash and reinsert into your gauge opening. Hopefully all is now re-recording miles.

PARTS and BACKGROUND INFO:

The new gear cost me $25 as of this writing in June, 2005. I found the gear at http://www.odometergears.com/. Jeff Caplan at Odometer Gears is a top notch, class act. I called there looking for help in isolating the part and he gave me spot on directions on how to get into the speedo, what to watch out for, and what to do once in there. Once I got things figured out, he had a new part in the mail that same day. You can call him at 757-593-3478 or email him at order@odometergears.com. My car is a '95 993 but I think all 964's, 968's and 993's will use the same 15 pin gear found when you hit the "Porsche" link at their website at http://www.odometergears.com/. Check with him first if you aren't sure.

Again, this is a VERY easy job. Not easy like a tire change - but only because you are dealing with a delicate instrument. If you have big, clumsy hands, you might want to forego this exercise and send it to a pro. If you can be gentle with this, you should be ok.

I hope this is helpful. I'll be sending this along to p-car.com soon. Please let me know if I missed anything, have typos, or drink too much for a 2 hour job. Thanks.

Hope this helps.
Regards
GR
 
Ian - Thanks for the link to the options site - looks like an opportunity for hours of fun!

Guard Red - Wow! Thanks - this certainly looks like an opportunity for hours of fun! I think my fingers are small enough, but I'm a bit impatient and would be worried that I would damage something in my eagerness to get it done quickly, probably good excercise for me though.

Any idea where I might source the part in the UK, might be worth e-mailing Jeff Caplan about this.
 
Colin,
The part is so small Jeff Caplan could probably put it in an ordinary envelope and mail it to you.

Cheers,

 
Colin,

if the one you have now is toast, what have you got to lose? If you're methodical you should be able to do it. not sure about getting the gear here, our American friends tend to have suppliers for just about the smallest micro part. As has been said, the part is tiny, you could have if from the States within two weeks.

Anyway, enjoy the car, looks great.

Regards
GR
 

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