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Turbo Face-Lift Caught On Test

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http://autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/216930/porsche_911.html

http://www.channel4.com/4car/gl/gallery/spy+shot/17619/



Spot the differences :ROFLMAO:

Nothing can stand in the way of the Porsche 911's never-ending development "" and the latest new version to be spied is the next generation Turbo.

Our exclusive shots show an almost undisguised prototype out on test. Expected to be unveiled at the Paris Motor Show later this year, the new range-topper will feature several styling tweaks as well as some mechanical upgrades.

The most obvious change comes at the rear, where more shapely lights replace the existing units. Tweaks at the front have also been made to give the 911 a fresh appearance.

Buyers can expect some trim upgrades on the inside, too.
 
It is a pity that the articles do not mention if the new turbos will be fitted with DSG/S-Tonic boxes.
Now for that I would consider a new purchase...[;)]
 
I really do hope that Porsche don't axe the professional grade GT1 engine for a consumer one. It would mean aftermarket tuning would be a much riskier prospect given the less strong engine.

One of the big pluses of the current Turbo is that for under £5k you can get approx. 550bhp and 800Nm torque with most Stage 2 aftermarket power-kits (air-filter + exhaust + ECU map). That puts paying an additional £30k for a 530bhp GT2 into perspective. Although I think that would be one of the main reasons for Porsche to make the change ie. justify the price difference between the Turbo and the GT2 which is rumored to keep the GT1 engine, plus save them a lot of money on each car.

So yes, pluses would be LED rear lights (Ooooo), Direct Injection for 10% better mpg and +10bhp, and maybe PDK. But on the downside you will be looking at the anual base price increase, a vacuum-cleaner sounding stock exhaust, all with the possibility of a weeker engine.

I am VERY glad I got mine when I did!! [:D]
 
For what it's worth the latest from 2 dealers I have spoken to recently:
a. did not expect PDK to appear on the C4-wheel drive 911s until '09, but expected PDK to be introduced on the "face-lifted" 2-wheel drive to be announced this year. The Turbo may not get PDK until 2010 (more aligned to later release cycle).
b. was doubtful of the plan to drop the GT engine on Turbo
 
Hmmmm, the rear lights are 'nice' but I dont like the fatter exhaust outlets in the rear bumper, looks out of proportion somehow.

Cant see any other differences.

Yves
 
Great! Looks more 'orange' than 'red' brakes to my eyes.

And "3.8-litres" - not before time, some might say.
 
Well the yellow calipers indicate PCCB but do these discs come in Red/Orange finish? Wasn't mentioned on the factory visit in September

I have seen steel discs glow red with the heat but surely that isn't the case with PCCB?

If it is a coloured disk how long is the finish going to last?

Apart from the rear lights I really couldn't see any difference to the front or rear PU can anyone point out the difference?

Looks great in black but too much cleaning for me!
 
ORIGINAL: fireblade

Well the yellow calipers indicate PCCB but do these discs come in Red/Orange finish? Wasn't mentioned on the factory visit in September

I have seen steel discs glow red with the heat but surely that isn't the case with PCCB?

If it is a coloured disk how long is the finish going to last?

Apart from the rear lights I really couldn't see any difference to the front or rear PU can anyone point out the difference?

Looks great in black but too much cleaning for me!
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Carbon or carbon ceramic brakes do most certainly glow red when very hot - witness F1 cars (e.g. at Singapore, where the lack of ambient light gave a great view of glowing discs).

Kind regards

Steve
 
I like the way they've blacked out the Porsche crest on the bonnet. I'm sure most of the onlookers were left scratching their heads wondering what car it was! It seems that Porsche stylists reputation for being lazy has been well and truly outdone by the Porsche development car disguise department.
 
Thanks Steve, I didn't really notice at Singapore but have seen it during night racing at Le Mans 24 for many years albeit some time ago before CCB.

What do you thing is the score with the above photos? Are they coloured discs or just very hot. I sort of like the idea of coloured discs!!

Cheers
 
ORIGINAL: fireblade

Thanks Steve, I didn't really notice at Singapore but have seen it during night racing at Le Mans 24 for many years albeit some time ago before CCB.

What do you thing is the score with the above photos? Are they coloured discs or just very hot. I sort of like the idea of coloured discs!!

Cheers
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Very hot. The car is being tested at the Nurburgring (the giveaway is all the writing on the circuit, plus the Tequipment roll cage that is definitely not standard).
 
Thanks Guys, looks awesome to show so bright in daylight. Doubt mine will ever glow like that even on track days, I have to pay for my tyres!
 
Is that an F1-style paddle I can spot on the steering wheel or just a glove? Probably just wishful thinking on my part...
 
Unlike steel brakes the coefficient of friction of the carbon ceramic brakes actually increases as they get hot so F1 drivers actually have to back off brake pedal pressure as they brake to prevent locking up. So the hotter they are the better they work (to a limit of course, they can catch fire if they get too hot). Also because ceramic doesn't conduct heat, the heat is not transferred to the fluid, therefore no brake fade.

Shame they cost £5k really.
 
So is the 3.8ltr engine the first turbo not to be based on the 'GT1' style block? If so it will be interesting to follow its reliability.......
 
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