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Turbo tie rods

Jacob

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I am considering for my next project to upgrade to turbo tie rods.

before I do this I have a few questions

Does it really make much difference?
Is it a hard DIY job?
How much for an indy to carry out the work?

cheers
 
Word of caution Jacob make sure you use genuine Porsche made or recommended tie rods, don't be tempted by other copies these are critical components. Having said that there is no harm in trying
http://www.type-911.co.uk/
http://www.berlyn-services.co.uk/parts.htm
to see if they have the correct parts at sensible money. As to the job, it apparently makes for a more responsive setup. I would have thought two-three hours labour and a prees might be necessary, if you are doing this job it's a good idea to renew other bushes too. Once you have them fitted pereodically check the gaiters are still attached like drive shaft gaiters they have a tendency to work free and loose the grease inside.
 
Before I had them fitted, my steering feel was very good, in fact too good at times, as the front seemed to talk to me too much !
After I had them fitted, I noticed that the steering was more 'solid', with less chatter, but more feel for what the tyres were doing (less masked by the chatter).

Not very informative words, but the best I can do. I think the cost was worth it, and wouldn't like to go back.
 
There you have it.

As I remember, about ÂŁ100.00 for the parts, and 2 hours labour (not by me, I may add),
including a simple wheel alignment.

So, ÂŁ180.00, perhaps ?

I think that I had it done with other work, so can't be sure.

Of to Le Mans soon (approx. 10 minutes - not in my car, though).
 
I checked out the DIY installation guide in 911 and Porsche World (Jan 2001) - looks like one for the professionals!
 
Mick,
Had the turbo tie rods fitted about a month ago. Initial reaction. Has lightened up my steering (mines a SSE so running turbo suspension, big rims ,tyres etc but is fitted with standard 3.2 steering) which was heavy before. Much more positive and was recommended as I wanted to fit a RS smaller diameter steering wheel. Well worth the relatively minor expense as I would have needed to spend some money fairly soon as one linkage had some play in it but not enough to fail the MOT.
Cant answer the spanner question as my specialist made the suggestion and did the work
Simon
 
This is the next thing on my list.

My local independent quoted me for just an hours labour, so not bothering to faff around with it myself. Just fitted a strut brace last weekend so I'm hoping the combination will sharpen things up a little.
 
Thanks for your thoughts guys
I have the old rods spilt from the struts after fitting the new inserts . Made some bump steer spacers up which go on this week, plus stainless steel brake lines.
Going in to have the suspension set up soon.

cheers mick
 
I was told about three hours labour for the full works. I hope that includes corner weights to. I have lowered the front as it was a tad to high for me.
 
ORIGINAL: Richard Bernau

IMHO its a waste of money unless you need to replace the OE tie rods. It was recently voted one of the most overrated upgrades on Pelican. I couldn't feel any difference when mine were done, but I was getting a new steering rack anyway so while you are in there....

I think the sad truth is that there isn't much wrong with the std front suspension provided its all as new and in good working order. I say this having replaced everything [&:] Replacing worn old stuff with new will always feel better, tighter, more precise. Unless you are creating a track car and taking lots of rubber out of the suspension, I simply wouldn't bother.
You're probably right RB. When I spoke to my local independent about it he said "All the track dayer's are having it done so there must be something in it, they reported back that they could feel the difference." That's why I put it on my list.

Maybe its just the placebo effect and having spent out a couple of hundred quid nobody really wants to admit it made no difference.

Had a similar conversation with him about bushes (the suspension variety). In his opinion new OEM rubber ones are perfectly fine for fast road use and much more comfortable to live with.
 
ORIGINAL: Richard Bernau

Replacing worn old stuff with new will always feel better, tighter, more precise

I had the Turbo tie rods done recently and I noticed a definate improvement in the steering response.

However .... I had also had 4 new Carrera Club Sport dampers, new front and rear anti-roll bars and new (turbo) rear torsion bars, the car lowered and complete suspension setup, all courtesy of 9 Meister, so....

It's very hard to say exactly what was responsible for the improvements :p

It sounds obvious but I think Richard's point about new components is easy to forget, god knows how old my old tie rods were, they were probably just worn out !

911 SC Sport ( slightly modified )
 
The improvement in the steering is a reduction in the amount of 'play' in the steering.

Basically it feels like I'm steering the car directly rather than wait the car to catch up with what I've asked it to do.

It feels lighter too ( but this may be down to the front suspension improvements ).
 
I have to say that's not a problem on my car. However mine does seem very susceptible to changes in tyre pressure. I've got them just about right now (28/33) I can really upset my turn in if I raise the rears a pound or two. The steering then bites, goes light then bites again...all very weird. Running these pressures, which I know are below what Porsche recommend, (though I know they are themselves contradictory) seem to make my car "work" much better on the road.

I think in light of what I've read I'll keep an eye on things and only change over to the turbo ones when mine are on the way out.
 

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