That's interesting Colin. I've been running P-Zero N2s on my Cayman S for the last 14k miles or so but my rears only lasted about 9k miles before requiring replacement due to uneven wear, although a check at Center Gravity did show that the rear geometry was some way out. My fronts still have a way to go before I need to replace them and I'm hoping that, despite the expense, I'll be in the position to replace all four tyres at the same time, so I'm interested in responses to your question. I've been happy with the performance of the P-Zeros for road and track use but unfortunately am unable to make any comparisons with other makes since they were the original fitments. I'd certainly recommend getting your geometry checked when you replace the tyres though just to ensure that it's within spec; mine was all over the place. Jeff
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Tyres - Michelin or Pirelli P Zero?
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colski1961
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OK, so it's time to change the rubber on my Cayman R.
Need to get N2 rated and two choices look like Michelin Pilot Sport 2 or Pirelli P-Zero
any thoughts or views - currently running Pilot Sports (as fitted when delivered) lasted 8,000 miles and strangely more wear on fronts than rears!
Appreciate any constructive advice.
Thanks, Colin
Need to get N2 rated and two choices look like Michelin Pilot Sport 2 or Pirelli P-Zero
any thoughts or views - currently running Pilot Sports (as fitted when delivered) lasted 8,000 miles and strangely more wear on fronts than rears!
Appreciate any constructive advice.
Thanks, Colin
I ran Pirellis and Michelins on a 986 Boxster S a few years ago and found the Michelins lasted better and were more predictable the Pirellis were great to a point but then could break away, however, compunds etc do change and the Pirellis I drove on the Gen 3 Cayman and Cayman S were difficult to make break away even on the low adhesion surface at Porsche Experience as I had been pushing it on the handling circuit before that and so they were warm, wear rate I would expect to be high. As Jeff said rears usually wear far quicker than fronts.
I am very surprised by the wear you describe My pirellis didn't do well on the cayman lasting only 7-8 k rears and 10 on front Zeros for winter did much better,but the best were the michelins which had done 14 k when I sold the car and still had plenty of life left Hopefully chris at CG will get you more out of whichever you choose !!
I agree with Dylian, that has been my experience of Michlins and Conti's but also I have found Bridgestones to be far cheaper than the Michelins while being pretty close on wear, ride and grip, I do feel that they can be slightly noisier than the Michelins but that depends more on road surfaces than the tyre make and model. It is also important to stay with the brand if changing one axle set so if Conti's are on the rear stay with the Conti's, unless changing a full set.
colski1961
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thanks all, decided to go with Michelin in the end, having them fitted next week so will be interested to see the old ones when they come off and check the wear properly. I know I do a lot a 'spirited' driving on twisty roads (lots up here in the Highlands) but would have expected (as others have pointed out) more wear on the rears....I'll report my findings. Cheers, Colin
If you are working a rear-wheel-drive chassis hard, it is not unusual for the for the fronts to share the workload and thus wear at a similar rate, logical really.
colski1961
Member
OK, so new rubber fitted (Michelin ) and had a good look and test of the old rubber coming off - not quite as OPC had suggested..... NSF - 235/35/19 - Inside 3mm / Mid 3mm / Outside 4mm OSF - 235/35/19 - Inside 2mm / Mid 4mm / Outside 4mm NSR - 265/35/19 - Inside 2mm / Mid 2mm / Outside 4mm OSR - 265/35/19 - Inside 3mm / Mid 4mm / Outside 3mm So the NSR seemed to have the heaviest wear - I discarded the rears but have kept the fronts as the OSF although recorded at 2mm is actually 2.9mm (recorded at 2mm as below 3mm!). Looks like the geometry is out or would you expect this to be within the normal limits? I don't drive on tracks just normal roads (Highlands of Scotland) in a 'spirited' manner but obviously within the legal limits [] Any thoughts? Cheers, Colin
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