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Chris_911

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Apologies, this is something of a tiresome question. I've searched the archives for opinions.

I'm looking at getting some new rear tyres. The previous owner fitted Avons all-round (ZZ3 I think) and the front ones have plenty of life. The rears are probably down to 2mm over 75% of their area. I have 16" Fuchs in 6 & 7 widths. With Le Mans looming I'm minded to fit new rear boots.

I have no great issues with the Avons. The car is used exclusively on the road, for pleasure. The Avons are commendably quiet but are not exceptional performers in any area.

I'm a great fan of the Goodyear F1 GSD3, but have no idea how these perform on a Carrera. Other than that I guess it's hit or miss. I have Pirelli PZeros on my Honda Accord which seem good (a recent fitment). I am not a fan of Bridgestone - had the S03s on another car and it's the only one I have managed to spin on the public road (at less than 40mph on a gentle curve).

My local tyre emporium (Pro-Tyre) can offer a pair of F1s for £205 inc and mentioned the Continental Sport Contact for £180 inc (not sure if thsi was the Sport Contact 2, or the previous incarnation).

Given the massive influence tyres have over the feel and performance of a car I'd appreciate hearing the experiences of the collective here.

Thanks.
 
Chris, this has been discussed at length on previous threads. Its a very subjective issue and it depends how good your suspension set-up is as to whether you'll get the max out of a set of covers or not.
I've run a set of Pirelli P600 on the back of mine with good results on both the road and track (did 18k and 3 track days), I've jsut replaced these with Conti Sport Contact 2's from www.mytyres.co.uk. I ought to look at replacing the fronts, I can't seem to wear them out, they've done 20k and thay aren't even half worn!

Cheers,
 
Chris,

If indeed you have ZZ3s then they are (I think) not bad tyres. You could just get 2 new ZZ3s and be done and all matched up. If they turn out to be ZZ1s, then any of the tyres you mention will be enormously better than ZZ1s - so much better in fact that I would bin them all.

Another good site to check is the US www.tirerack.com.

I also think your experience with SO3s is more likely due to road surface than the tyres as the SO3s do very well in every ultra-high performance tyre test I have seen. The usual downside with SO3s is the cost.

FWIW, my money would be on 4 Goodyears out of the ones you mention, but I would also get a price on Toyo T1S and T1R - top tyres at (usually) very competitive prices. I am about to put T1S's on my wife's Audi A6 (again, FWIW).

Just my $0.02.

RB
 
Hi Richard - thanks for your input.

Current tyres are indeed ZZ3. I dug out a copy of EVO's last tyre test and they acquitted themselves averagely well in pretty much all the tests. One thing that I've always been surprised at is the low level of tyre noise in my car, and indeed the test proclaims the ZZ3s to be by far the best of the test bunch in terms of noise.. They also say that they are a soft compound.

My preference is also for the Goodyears, having had sets on previous cars and been very pleased (in terms of 'feel' - wet or dry).

Does the GSD3 work well on a 17 yr old 911?

I guess I'm a tyre snob, but tyres really do have a massive influence over the 'feel' of a car.
 

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Does the GSD3 work well on a 17 yr old 911?
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Should do. Only issue is that modern sticky tyres will tend to highlight body roll, worn bushings etc that an older, more compliant tyre would not.

I have said it before, our cars are not so special that they need a specialy designed tyre, hence my belief that buying "N" designated tyres is a total waste of money for 80s 911s. All modern tyres are designed to work with cars much heavier than the rear end of a 911.
 
Just fitted a set (front & rear) of ZZ3s. Only done 2000 kms since, seem OK up until now. Low noise level, softish compound but give good handling on the 3,2.
Cheers
 
Up until recently I had unmatched tyres on the front and a matching pair on the back (like that when I bought it) and had to replace them a bit sooner than planned when I got a side-wall puncture in one of the rears. I fitted continental contact 2's all round as they were on a 4 for 3 deal at my local garage and the handling has improved unbelievably and I now have much more confidence when driving at speed.

 
Seeing the mention of Bridgestone Potenza S03's, I believe they are now being discontinued, despite being a recent tyre. I use these on my Accord R road car. Potenza RE040's as used on the Honda S2000 seem to be latest usable Bridgestone. 7000 miles is my average mileage on the driven wheels on Potenza RE010's or S03's. Cost a little over £100 each fitted and balanced. At Porsche sizes the cost would be appreciably more.

Mike
 
You can still buy the SO 2's in Porsche N3 rating from Micheldever tyres, they quoted me two weeks ago to replace mine at just over £300 for all four fitted, apparently Bridgestone only make this tyre in the porsche rating so its still popular, I use mine for track and road without any problems

Bruce
 
Haven' heard of any car that F1s don't perform well on - a few 996 owners have them with no issues whatsoever (bar the lack of N rating)
 
Chris
I have the same as Bruce SO2 all round and am well pleased with them wear rate seems good and noise is OK. As others have said matching the tyres all round is the main thing to help handling. Other people on the forum have rated Kumho very highly as value for money.
Baz
 
I have Pirelli PZeros on my Honda Accord
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Interesting,,, my old Accord Type R had S02's and it was very grippy. Likewise, on the Clubbie, they seem to be very well matched. Old Goodyears were too hard and a little too skittish ( they were old though)

Rgds
 
I have Dunlop Sports on my car and they are superb. However I have 15" rims and I can't put Continentals or many other makes on my rims as they don't do them in that size. But the Dunlops are excellent so I don't feel I am missing anything.
 
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