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James_G

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Mmm, frustrating when people send stuff out wrong, but as you say, good that they were happy to resolve the issue. 9500 miles does seem low to me, but assuming that they've worn evenly would indicate things were fine with tracking and/or pressures. Odd though, unless you treat every roundabout as a drifting opportunity [;)].
 
Hi - yes - even wear across both of the tyres, and I've not learnt how to drift yet [:(] - I drive fairly quickly in it, but I don't thrash it, and I'm a bit of a chicken when it comes to corners, the tail end has lost it's grip twice in all the time I've had it, in the wet on both occasions, and by losing grip I mean it's kicked out by about 6 inches before it regained grip again.
 
Superb timing - see my post under technical - wheels and tyres asking exactly this - Another report I read somewhere said 17k for Contis where as my old P600s have lasted more like 30k. I do wonder if these threads should be combined one-way or the other though?
 
Tref, P6000s are notorious for lasting a long long time, with a trade off being that grip levels aren't high. As a friend once quipped, this is the price you pay for tyres made of coal... I had P6000s on my car and a spare set of wheels, so Falken 452s went on the nice wheels for everyday use and the P6000s went on the track wheels, and I can confirm that even hot, they really don't have very much grip. As a result, I track the car with the Falkens which are far, far better. Echoing the comments on your thread in the technical section, I and others here on the forum really rate the Falkens and any appreciable acceleration in wear experienced over your Pirellis will be offset by their reduction in cost. Plus you'll have more grip.
 
ORIGINAL: tref Superb timing - see my post under technical - wheels and tyres asking exactly this - Another report I read somewhere said 17k for Contis where as my old P600s have lasted more like 30k. I do wonder if these threads should be combined one-way or the other though?
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Thanks Tref, I've added my whinge to that thread too. I feel much better now [:)]
 
I got about 20,000 miles from the rears of my S2 last time I changed them. They were Falkens, and that is mainly town driving with mild enthusiasm. I reckon on a wear rate of about 2:1 rear:front (i.e. the rears wear about twice as quickly as the fronts.) As James has said, the driving style and roads driven will dictate the tyre life if the geo is correct (are you sure about this BTW?) The rears will do all of the accelerating, the fronts most of the braking. If you slide it regularly then that will take its toll on tyre life. Are they correctly inflated? (Are they worn evenly, or more in the middle or outside?) What sort of driving do you do? Country roads with gusto, or lots of gentle cruising on motorways? And are you sure about the geo? Oli. ETA: I was REALLY slow in writing this post - sorry! Everyone else has said everythign worth saying. P6000's are great if you want to drivge everywhere very slowly. They last forever. If, however, you want some adhesion between tyre and road they are an awful choice! How Pirelli carry on selling them is beyond me ...
 
Just had a panic over Tyres - I checked the tyres yesterday before we set off for the Cotswold Rally tomorrow, and the rear tyres were in a bad way - down to the wear indicators.

I've had them on for a little under 9500 miles which I don't think is very good. They were Continental Sport Contact. Is this a reasonable mileage to get from tyres? The alignment of the car is spot on - it was done by Hartech 3 years ago, and was checked recently and didn't need adjusting.

In contrast, the Pirelli P-Zeros on the front were on the car when I bought it, they've done 11000 miles, and they're still very good. Unfortunately, I can't get P-Zeros for the back anywhere.

To make things worse, I ordered some 225/50 Toyo tyres from Blackcircles.com which arrived today, so I took them to ATS to get fitted and once they'd got the old tyres off, they realised that Blackcircles had sent the wrong size. (205/50) [:mad:] Fortunately, ATS had some tyres in that would fit (slightly wider 245/45) but they were Continental Sport Contact again [:mad:][:mad:] and dearer [:mad:][:mad:][:mad:].

Anyway, at least I'm road legal again. Even if only for another 9000 miles, and Blackcircles were fine about taking the incorrect tyres back.

Now I've vented my spleen, I should go do some Yogic Breathing excercises to calm down. Or shall I have a cold beer? Cold beer wins!![:D]
 
Hi Oli, The tyre pressures have been pretty well bang on all the time I've owned it, and of the 9500 miles that the car has covered with these tyres on, I'd say 8000 has been on motorways / dual carriageways (travelling to Porsche events at Silverstone x 2, Ragley, Evesham, Ace Cafe accounts for a fair chunk of that), and the rest has been on A / B roads. Probably a maximum of 500 miles on twisty roads. I'm absolutely certain about the geometry too, and I had a good look at the tyres when they were off the car. They had very even wear right across, to within 1mm. I'm puzzled about it because I know that Continentals are supposed to be decent tyres - in fact if someone told me that I'd bought fakes made of pencil rubbers, that would explain it away nicely! As for sliding it regularly, I suppose I am guilty of that to a degree - I think the first time was in May 2007, then again in May 2008, I'm due to slide it again in a couple of weeks time, if I can afford it. [;)]
 
ORIGINAL: georgethackray As for sliding it regularly, I suppose I am guilty of that to a degree - I think the first time was in May 2007, then again in May 2008, I'm due to slide it again in a couple of weeks time, if I can afford it. [;)]
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Brilliant! [:D][:D][:D]
 
Could have been worse - melted-down condoms, perhaps? See how long the next set lasts. If your car is eating tyres then something will be amiss. That (regular sliding included) sounds like very light wear and I'd hope for more than that from a pair of decent tyres. Oli.
 
P6000s were perfect for my old SAAB 9000 Griffin, sitting at Motorway speeds for up to 9 hours a day and 30k miles a year. Unfortunately my new 951 has them on the front..... Not as bad as the Maxxes on the back though[:mad:] What's the preferred Tyre de Jour on the forum?
 
Fattie, Do a search - there is a lot of discussion about tyres on here. But the Falken FK452 seems to be brilliant as a budget tyre (lots of people think it's good), and I think there is an Avon which people with more money swear by as well. Oli.
 
ORIGINAL: zcacogp Could have been worse - melted-down condoms, perhaps?
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Quite possibly. They might have sourced them here http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_w_h_?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=condom, where Amazon sell both new and used ones [:'(]
 
ORIGINAL: Fat Albert P6000s were perfect for my old SAAB 9000 Griffin, sitting at Motorway speeds for up to 9 hours a day and 30k miles a year. Unfortunately my new 951 has them on the front..... Not as bad as the Maxxes on the back though[:mad:] What's the preferred Tyre de Jour on the forum?
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Dunlop Sports Maxxs? Oh I don't know, I have them all round on my other car and I really rate them, but different car, different sizes etc, etc. Anyway, back on topic, the key is to make sure that you get the same brand all round, as 944s seem quite fussy in this respect, and make sure that you get the correct sizes. I note that your new steed has non original wheels, so it would be worth a check to see that these are genuine Porsche wheels or replicas. Popular choices to look for are - Falken FK452s, Goodyear Eagles and Toyo Proxes. I'm not sure what the correct sizes are for them alas, since I only have D90s, but somebody will be along I am sure.
 
Just fitted some Toyos tr888 to my 16 inch standard wheels (forged clubsports),the adhesion is fantastic and i can really nail it now without being worried its going to chuck me in a ditch,traction is fantastic,yet they are still refined to drive on the road.The rubber feels very soft to the touch so i am betting they won't last as long as the previous set which were Pirelli Asimetricos and well past their best....
 
I had Toyo T1 S's on the rear of my Turbo and got approx 13 to 14,000 miles from them before I recently changed them. They are pretty soft, so I was pleased with the wear rate. Just changed to T1 R's.
 
I've got Bridgestone SO2s all round (The Porsche approved version N...whatever). I think it's the first time I've ever had tyres which I felt were contributing significantly to the handling of a car.They warm up and start to work really nicely. I'd certainly buy more if I can.Not Chris 87 220T
 
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