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Veloce 3.6 18" split rims on a cabrio 944?

al

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Evening all.
I'm contemplating purchasing a set of thee to fit to my cabrio, and veloce do state that they are a direct replacement with an offset of 52 front with a 225/40 tyre and offset of 47 rear with a 265/35 tyre. Has anyone had any experiences of these wheels on an s2?. Any issues with rubbing, harsher ride and degraded handling at all?
Many thanks in advance for replies or advice.

Al.
 
The 18" wheels will be heavier than the standard wheels. You would need to uprate the suspension, which will most likely give a harsher ride.
 
Thanks blade. I'm currrently running standard suspension with 16" D90's on avon 205/55 front and pirelli p7 225/50 rears. Ride is firm as is, and wiilling if needed to upgrade the suspension to suit.
 
Porsche does not approve 18" wheels on 944s - as I understand it is due to extra loading on (front?) suspension mounting. I personally think the rear A arm eccentric pins are a little "thin" for this important job but I have no evidence either way. It seems a fair number of people run 18s on their 944/968s so hopefully someone with several thousand miles on 18 wheels can comment on any issues discovered. I would think the minimum changes would be to install the Porsche recommended mods for running 17" wheels.
 
I've run 18's for 25k on my turbo because I like the looks of them. I fitted KW's and had a proper geo done soon after I bought it though. If they weren't such silly money I probably would have bought a set of 17" cups too. I've said before Porsche ran 18's on the 968 S/RS and they were also offered for normal 968's.
 
Check the weight of the wheel / tyre combo & compare with D90's. I suspect it will be a much less pleasant car to steer.

My S2 (with KWv3) had some heavy split rim wheels fitted when I bought it, and was much nicer with lighter wheels. Same with a previous turbo (with leda dampers) - I bought some 17" speedlines because they looked great, but they made the steering heavier & the whole driving experience worse.
 
There have been discussions on here about making these sorts of changes to the Cabrio...I recall there were some strong opinions about the effect of stiffer suspension and low profile tyres on the Cabrio's less rigid body shell, and thus its handling. Must admit, I like the look of the Veloce wheels....

Does anyone else remember this?
 
al said:
Evening all.
I'm contemplating purchasing a set of thee to fit to my cabrio, and veloce do state that they are a direct replacement with an offset of 52 front with a 225/40 tyre and offset of 47 rear with a 265/35 tyre. Has anyone had any experiences of these wheels on an s2?. Any issues with rubbing, harsher ride and degraded handling at all?
Many thanks in advance for replies or advice.
Al.



Then big question is why are your contemplating? If it's to make the car look different / Cool etc.. and this is you main motive
Go for it... although part of your thoughts I can see have mentioned the words Harsher ride and degraded handling and the answer to this is Yes and Yes...

but if this does not bother you because the cosmetic look takes priority then don't worry about the appalling ride, heavier steering and less brisk acceleration and other associated issues like tramlining etc..

In comparison to your Current D90's (7 & 8's?) they are different thus :

The extra 1" wider front wheel will stick out by 16mm, and the inside of the rim will be be 9mm further towards the strut
On the rear the extra 1.5" wider rims are distributed with 24mm more sticking out the arch and the inner rim 14mm further towards
the body/arch

The other point is these wheels are a nightmare when the lacquer starts to come off, the bolts are pretend and I'm unsure if they are screwed in or glued, but to have them Machine lathe polished again is costly and I'd imagine they may not have any warranty on them? and could start peeling within 6 months especially the 9.5" rears with stone chips..

R


 
blade7 said:
The 18" wheels will be heavier than the standard wheels. You would need to uprate the suspension, which will most likely give a harsher ride.



Why would you "Need to uprate the Suspension" the only thing I'm assuming you mean is to change the shock absorbers and springs?
Or do you mean some other component of the suspension ?

Only this is one of the most common mistakes many people do, fit less compliant heavier (Bigger rim diameters & Smaller Sidewall tyres) and also
stiffer shock absorbers and stiffer & Lower springs ...which when all done at once creates a massive adverse change in the car's ability to drive nicely
on public roads.

Changing just the wheels (up 1" ideally or if people insist 2" bigger) on it's own will create many different characteristics of how the car feels and drives,
and unless the stock shock absorbers are shot are worn, replacing them with versions that offer even less movement and compliance makes matters even worst..

It would be better to just fit larger wheels, not lower the ride height or stiffen the shock absorbers this will only wear out other components
at a much faster rate, not to mention the adverse handling.

The Porsche bulletin whenever that was written from memory suggests it's the size and calculated strength of the 944 suspension that is in their opinion
is not suitable to be fitted with 18" wheels.

Quoting they fitted them to the handful of 968 RS's is hardly an ideal approval that they will be fine, and how many 968's have you seen with Porsche
18" wheels? The replacement (Boxster) was designed and started it's life with 16" wheels just as the 944 S2 & Turbo did. Many Boxster owners also
have the same debate, some like fitting huge hoops, some most won't go anywhere near such a venture because it's not ideal and only for the extremists.

R



 
Many thanks for the replies and advice, much appreciated.
I like the look of the veloce rims, but ride and handling are more important than looks. The steering Is heavy as standard compared to a modern car as you know, so I don't want it any weightier.
I think I'll stick to the D90's.
 
al said:
Many thanks for the replies and advice, much appreciated.
I like the look of the veloce rims, but ride and handling are more important than looks. The steering Is heavy as standard compared to a modern car as you know, so I don't want it any weightier.
I think I'll stick to the D90's.



If your looking for a facelift / refresh / change like your Burgundy Hood then you could change the colour of your D90's ?
Or even try the light Cup 1 16" wheels, again in Silver or a two tone Combo...
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R
 
I might be the only one but I'm not too keen on the cup 1's.
I think the D90's with a polished rim and the centre done in light anthracite might look kinda cool, retro but with a modern twist.
 
al said:
I might be the only one but I'm not too keen on the cup 1's.
I think the D90's with a polished rim and the centre done in light anthracite might look kinda cool, retro but with a modern twist.



Yes the Cup 1' thinner spoke design are not as popular


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R
 
Sorry to" but in" on this 944 thread but, I used to run 18's on my '44 turbo shod with Pilot Sport's and it drove and handled superbly [8D]!! Likewise, now on my 968. I am on Tech Art 18's, and they were a factory option back in '94. Using Pilot Sport 2's now and, just like before with the '44, the drive and handling is the Mutz Nutz [8D][8D]!! Or am I missing the point with this little contribution?? [8|] [:D]
 
Plenty of negative opinion about 18's, often recycled internet hearsay from people that have never driven a properly set up car with them fitted...
 
Ex Skyline said:
Sorry to" but in" on this 944 thread but, I used to run 18's on my '44 turbo shod with Pilot Sport's and it drove and handled superbly [8D]!! Likewise, now on my 968. I am on Tech Art 18's, and they were a factory option back in '94. Using Pilot Sport 2's now and, just like before with the '44, the drive and handling is the Mutz Nutz [8D][8D]!! Or am I missing the point with this little contribution?? [8|] [:D]



No probs or butting in all opinions are welcome!
However what your perception and thoughts of what's superb about driving a 44 or 68 with 18" Wheels will be very different
to most owners opinions for various reasons, including myself in the handling department as i've spent a lot of time testing 8 Transaxles
(944's and 968)on the road (Not track) over 16 years with over 20 different sets of wheels from 15" to 18"

If my 924S would handle and perform better with 18's I'd fit them tomorrow, but it would Kill the performance (Even 17's did) !

R


 

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