Views on this??

[m4ttc]

Read this posted on another forum where a poor guy is on the point of selling his car before he picks it up due to the salesman at an unnamed OPC

Has anyone come across anything similar?

http://www.caymanclub.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1881&FORUM_ID=9&CAT_ID=4&Topic_Title=Cayman+For+Sale&Forum_Title=Cayman+UK

 

[Alex Postan]

Hi there,
It seems to me that the main problem has been the attitude of the salesman and the p/x price and not the tracker difficulty. My advice would be to bypass the tracker problem by making sure that your insurance was in order and then doing without the tracker - after all it's only a mass produced car.
The p/x is more important - was the offer you less than Glass's trade buying on the trade in?; if so it should be possible to out it elsewhere for that price (which is its value) and to take delivery of what is a very fine car indeed...or do you think that the guy wanted retail money for the p/x? If so he's away with the fairies.
Don.t forget it's a dog eat dog world and this could be sledging by BMW's dirty tricks dept.
Toodle PIP

 

[Delbox]

Don't think that there is an attitude problem other than with the guy who wants to step away from his new car before paying for it - for a reason that is unclear.

There seem to be 3 issues:

Firstly, the installation of a Tracker. There is Porsche directive that prohibits the fitting of Tracker products by - or at - OPCs - although I believe that it only takes effect from cars delivered on or after 1 Mar 06; however, there is nothing to stop anyone having a Tracker fitted. The only issue is that Porsche will not accept liability for anything to do with the Tracker or its installation. The benefit of the Porsche VTS is that it is covered by the warranty - and is the only OEM fitted security device assessed as satisfying Thatcham Cat 5 standards.

Secondly, the part exchange value offered; he doesn't detail the circumstances so we can't discuss what may or may not have occured.

And thirdly the issue relating to the return or otherwise of his deposit. Perhaps he should have read the terms of his contract before complaining. Most OPC will refund a deposit in full, without question, if an order is cancelled before the car in question is specified in detail. At that point, a deposit equating to 10% of the car's value is usually required. This is not refundable unless a buyer for the car - at its full price - can be found. If the price of the car needs to be reduced to sell the car then the deposit is used to offset the loss; whatever is left, if anything, is returned to the depositor once the car is sold.

I think that 'Matt' needs to take a long hard look at a situation that seems to be of his own making.

Del

 

[JCB..]

If you want a good deal on your current car the last place to go is a car dealer, the very last place is an OPC!

Don't fit a tracker - waste of money.

Just MHO of course.

JCB..

 

[daro911]

ORIGINAL: JCB..

Don't fit a tracker - waste of money.

Just MHO of course.

JCB..

We had 5 cars stolen [], 3 recovered damaged, 2 never seen again all in the space of 10 months. Our insurers never even mentioned the replacement cars having trackers fitted so I am with JCB on this one

 

[Alan_Armstrong]

I tend to agree with John and Daro re the non fitment of a tracker.

I can also understand Porsche GB's position re the fitment of trackers.
Now that they have their own tracker system available, it seems obvious to me that they would not allow a cheaper independent version to be fitted on dealer premises. My worry, would be the reliability of the OE tracking system, I dont seem to have heard much about it, no technical reports -good or bad, or even anything to do with a launch of such a system. Taking on board the recent issues with Sat Nav and PCM....I would want to 'wait and see'

 

[evoke]

I would never have a tracker fitted. If my car stolen I wouldn't want it back. You would have no idea what condition it will be in. It could never be the same car. I would want a new one.

 

[JCB..]

Apparently fewer Police cars are fitted with the detectors these days. I don't know if that's true or not.

JCB..

 

[Guest]

Cap cars do have less Tracke devices fitted, reason being..... They are too resource hungry to actually 'Track' the stolen vehicle... On average three hours.

The police cannot be seen to be wasting that time on tracking nicked mota's moreover, they are implementing tactical squads to get to the root of car crime instead of investing (time) heavily in finding nicked cars... IMHO a better option.. Cull the organised crime, if you do 'come across' a stolen car and it can be identified, its a bonus.!

Therefore no Tracker - No directline...!

 

[karl from ripponden]

I have never heard of a track of a stolen vehicle taking three hours[:-][:-] even in sunny Manchester [][][] surely it depends on how many Traffic cop cars are in the area fitted with Tracker.[8|][8|]
The bad guys who nick the quality stuff will park it up and leave it for a while[&:] if its got tracker it gets picked up ........by the cops. If it hasnt it gets shipped out.[][]

 

[Guest]

Thats the point, they park the car in a quiet area and await either a) the rozzers tow truck or b) their TWOC'ing mate to drive to the port/stripping office.

Makes lots of sense... However my original statement of Tracker being removed from non tactical police cars is quite true.