What to buy S2 or TURBO
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Helen Goff
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well i opted for the S2 as i thought it would be cheeper to maintain..
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What everyone else said.
If toys are important to you all Turbos had air-con whereas not many S2s did ~ it's based on the outlawed R12 refrigerant though which means it can be expensive to get it going again if it doesn't work. Silver Rose and '89 on Turbos had bigger brakes and LSD (earlier ones were similar chassis as S2s but without ABS). Later Turbos ('90 on) had bridge spoilers ('91 on for S2s) and most (all?) had leather which was rare in all but the last S2s.
Standard Turbos aren't very nice to drive whereas S2s generally are.
If toys are important to you all Turbos had air-con whereas not many S2s did ~ it's based on the outlawed R12 refrigerant though which means it can be expensive to get it going again if it doesn't work. Silver Rose and '89 on Turbos had bigger brakes and LSD (earlier ones were similar chassis as S2s but without ABS). Later Turbos ('90 on) had bridge spoilers ('91 on for S2s) and most (all?) had leather which was rare in all but the last S2s.
Standard Turbos aren't very nice to drive whereas S2s generally are.
Very "off/on" type of power delivery.
You will either learn to live with the 'lag' or end up doing everything to eliminate it.
As with most car choices, have a go in a few and see what you prefer to drive and if it suits your needs.
(IMO) I don't think you could go wrong with either Turbo or S2, both have their foibles as I am sure you are aware.
Guest
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I could be selfish and say a Turbo is best oh and look i know one that could be for sale.
But, its already been said. An S2 is still a pretty quick car, nice sounding engine lots of character, and feels quicker lower donw due ot the difference gearing (more so than any additional low down torque)
Turbos really are too tempting to start throwing money at them.
If you have deep pockets get a turbo, if you have slightly less deep pockets then the S2 will be fab.
But, its already been said. An S2 is still a pretty quick car, nice sounding engine lots of character, and feels quicker lower donw due ot the difference gearing (more so than any additional low down torque)
Turbos really are too tempting to start throwing money at them.
If you have deep pockets get a turbo, if you have slightly less deep pockets then the S2 will be fab.
sawood12
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As others have said before it's upto your own personal preference in terms of power delivery. I opted for the Turbo and do get frustrated by the lag, especially in heavy traffic where you want that instant blip of power to accellerate into that gap in the next lane just ahead of you. I don't even bother now. In fact i've just got used to mooching about in slow traffic rather than always looking for that gap that might get you a couple of cars ahead.
Having said that, when the road opens up and I get the chance to keep the turbo blowing through the gears I know i've made the right choice for me. The sheer kick in the back is exhilarating and it stays there right upto the red line in every gear until you bottle out (or hit the speed limit). It's times like that I think to myself "I made the right choice".
In terms of maintenance costs I doubt a turbo is any more expensive to run unless things really go pear shaped or you do get hooked on the modifying thing, and in any case you can get a 2nd hand turbo from a breakers for a few hundred quid so it wouldn't bankrupt you in the unlikely event that you did have turbo trouble.
Whatever you go for i'm sure you'll have a blast!
Having said that, when the road opens up and I get the chance to keep the turbo blowing through the gears I know i've made the right choice for me. The sheer kick in the back is exhilarating and it stays there right upto the red line in every gear until you bottle out (or hit the speed limit). It's times like that I think to myself "I made the right choice".
In terms of maintenance costs I doubt a turbo is any more expensive to run unless things really go pear shaped or you do get hooked on the modifying thing, and in any case you can get a 2nd hand turbo from a breakers for a few hundred quid so it wouldn't bankrupt you in the unlikely event that you did have turbo trouble.
Whatever you go for i'm sure you'll have a blast!
TTM
Well-known member
The turbo has low torque down but as it's a heavier car than the 2.5 NA you're unlikely to notice much difference.
The turbo 250 has more low down torque than even the S2 when it's off boost, at least from 2000 revs (check the torque curves in the manual).
Again, because the turbo 250 is a heavier car, has longer gear ratios and its throttle response is rubbish compared to the S2's, the S2 will feel faster off the line.
The turbo 250 is a supersport car while the S2 is a super sportscar.
The turbo 250 has more low down torque than even the S2 when it's off boost, at least from 2000 revs (check the torque curves in the manual).
Again, because the turbo 250 is a heavier car, has longer gear ratios and its throttle response is rubbish compared to the S2's, the S2 will feel faster off the line.
The turbo 250 is a supersport car while the S2 is a super sportscar.
The ratios are the same (except 5th as you said) but the final drive is different 3.875:1 for the S2 and 3.375:1 for the Turbo.
A quick scan of the handbook gives roughly
2nd gear 6,500 rpm 110km/h in the turbo
2nd gear 6,500 rpm 95Km/h in the S2
and in
5th gear 6,500 rpm 170mph turbo
5th gear 6,500 rpm 155mph S2
Tony
A quick scan of the handbook gives roughly
2nd gear 6,500 rpm 110km/h in the turbo
2nd gear 6,500 rpm 95Km/h in the S2
and in
5th gear 6,500 rpm 170mph turbo
5th gear 6,500 rpm 155mph S2
Tony
Just be careful you are not over gearing. I had a motor bike as a teenager that was one tooth over on the front sproket and on paper it should have been faster but it was unable to pull its max speed at the red line( or even close to the red line), and actually had a max speed higher in fourth gear than in fifth. Changed it the next time time I got pocket money.
Saying that tho I might be a bit biased because the 944S is gutless in town (under 3800 rpm)and I only ever see fourth or fifth on the motor way, which is world apart from my previous 535i which would happily idle along in fifth all round town all day. (huge torque and far more relaxed, put the 944S foibles aside is far more focused).
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