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944S2? ~£6-7k I'd say, if it's a nice one. Have you checked inside the sills?
 
ORIGINAL: edh 944S2? ~£6-7k I'd say, if it's a nice one. Have you checked inside the sills?
Hi Edh, yes it is an S2, not checked inside of sills ,car has not been used during winter months .
 
Hi all,
Thinking of buying a 1991 944 S2 coupe, blue with cream leather 88,000 miles, no rust on cills, owned for 18 years by current owner, good service history, belts plus water pump replaced last year, new mot.No dents a few scratches and some stone chips but over all very good Needs a good clean but drives well. What's it worth.
 
Anything from £5K to perhaps £12K? As often discussed, there are so many potential bills.... Rust on sills and wings starts from the inside, so outside is no guide. Clutch, head gasket, brake and fuel lines, caliper refresh, suspension overhaul, I could go on! With rising values restoration is more viable, but it also means that some ropey cars are being listed as classics when they are really breakers. More details would help. I'd always want to see phone shots inside the sills, and copies of the last 5 years or so history. Belt change for example: could be a diy job that you wouldn't trust, or a full belt/seals/water pump/timing chain and tensioner service from a recognised specialist with the follow-up tension check.
 
ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty Anything from £5K to perhaps £12K? As often discussed, there are so many potential bills.... Rust on sills and wings starts from the inside, so outside is no guide. Clutch, head gasket, brake and fuel lines, caliper refresh, suspension overhaul, I could go on! With rising values restoration is more viable, but it also means that some ropey cars are being listed as classics when they are really breakers. More details would help. I'd always want to see phone shots inside the sills, and copies of the last 5 years or so history. Belt change for example: could be a diy job that you wouldn't trust, or a full belt/seals/water pump/timing chain and tensioner service from a recognised specialist with the follow-up tension check.
Hi Paul, all servicing has been done by the same Porsche specialist, half engine was fitted by Porsche main dealer at 50,000 miles.
 
ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty . Belt change for example: could be a diy job that you wouldn't trust, or a full belt/seals/water pump/timing chain and tensioner service from a recognised specialist with the follow-up tension check.
I do my own belts-what's wrong with that?It's not hi-tech just a toothed belt for goodness sake-never used a gauge either. I also cut my own lawn-don't use an independant-am I not to trust that either? As it happens ,I also service all my lawnmowers of which I have 2 Atco's,3 Allen/Flymo's hovers & 2 petrol strimmers-looks like I'm heading for trouble. Even do my own gardening--now it's getting really serious-funny thing is -my plants grow very well-must be doing something wrong.[&o]
 
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ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty . Belt change for example: could be a diy job that you wouldn't trust, or a full belt/seals/water pump/timing chain and tensioner service from a recognised specialist with the follow-up tension check.
I do my own belts-what's wrong with that?It's not hi-tech just a toothed belt for goodness sake-never used a gauge either. I also cut my own lawn-don't use an independant-am I not to trust that either? As it happens ,I also service all my lawnmowers of which I have 2 Atco's,3 Allen/Flymo's hovers & 2 petrol strimmers-looks like I'm heading for trouble. Even do my own gardening--now it's getting really serious-funny thing is -my plants grow very well-must be doing something wrong.[&o]
As values rise, buyers will expect to see stamps from recognised specialists. No matter how good you maybe, a buyer will not know this. As an example the previous owner of mine was an engineer with a mechanic daughter, they did not look after it well. Didn't bother me at £1900 but would do at £15k and up.
 
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ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty . Belt change for example: could be a diy job that you wouldn't trust, or a full belt/seals/water pump/timing chain and tensioner service from a recognised specialist with the follow-up tension check.
I do my own belts-what's wrong with that?It's not hi-tech just a toothed belt for goodness sake-never used a gauge either. I also cut my own lawn-don't use an independant-am I not to trust that either? As it happens ,I also service all my lawnmowers of which I have 2 Atco's,3 Allen/Flymo's hovers & 2 petrol strimmers-looks like I'm heading for trouble. Even do my own gardening--now it's getting really serious-funny thing is -my plants grow very well-must be doing something wrong.[&o]
Me too [:D]. If I didn't know what I was doing or a job is a real PITA I might pay someone else to do it. As for stamps in the book that doesn't tell how a job has been done, if at all....
 
I'm not too sure I agree with the 'stamps in the book comment'. Certainly not for the older cars anyway. This states that we are creating an investment for a future buyer instead of working on our own cars and actually enjoying them ourselves. Tough if the service book does not have stamps for the buyer - then they won't buy, let them find another car! It doesn't stop the seller explaining what, how and why a repair job was done. I personally have a massive parts receipt collection of the parts that have been bought for my car which to me is far more value than an oil change stamp in a book. Those with the money and cannot do DIY car mechanics will of course be more than happy to spend on the car.....Those who do not have the money and still enjoy the car doing the work themselves are very reluctant to pay excessive garage charges for something they can do at home. Personally, I think the better cars are usually these types of buys. Although there are guide prices for or cars, a car is ultimately worth what someone is prepared to pay for it.
 
agree with comments above...stamps mean little to me and to be honest a well cared for car with lots of receipts will generally be a better buy.... these are old cars and labour is very expensive....a stamped book may show that the car has been serviced but how many items have been ignored to save costs by either the owner or the dealer concerned? I would suggest probably a fair few, unless someone has unlimited funds but then I doubt that they would be spending a small fortune on a 30 year old car, that's what car enthusiasts do, or is it nutters...:). Pete
 
Over the last couple years I've lost some motivation to lay on a cold garage floor under my car, often I think it would be lot easier just to pay someone with a ramp, but unless they fancy me standing there watching them work it's not going to happen.
 
What about the best of both worlds, home service and a stamp in the book [:D] As you can see my S2 has had all the necessary jobs completed recently at reputable indies, as well as a fully stamped history up to that page, when it came to a minor service this year, before taking the car to Germany ,I was intending to leave it with my nearest OPC. After having a high quote for what is merely an oil and filter change (the car has a new K&N in the standard airbox) I opted to do it myself . Being a retired mechanical engineer by trade I decided a Porsche or Indie stamp in the book wasn't worth the extra outlay, I used a better oil of my choice, not whatever they have in stock, also fitted new plugs, cap and rotor all cheaper than a minor OPC service. Services I will do myself, the big jobs can go to Hartech or another respected indie in a few years. Will it affect my car come sale time, I think the condition and mileage will allay any fears over a home oil change. As for the stamp, well, it's amazing what you can order on eBay Cheers, Paul
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Well this is the downside to our cars rising in value, they start to appeal to different people and move out of the kind of car that you can pick up and enjoy working on, value just didn't come in to it. Personally I bought my card for me and nit the next guy, but I still think the day will come when buyers will expect to see stamps and receipts for work done at quality places.
 

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