To clarify, I regard extreme stretching and protruding wheels (outside bodywork) to be extremely poor engineering practice though I am not suggesting that smiffyraf1's 205/40 on 8.5J to be an extreme stretch of the type seen on some of the now legendary PH threads. Equally importantly this is not wheel / tyre combos that protrude beyond the bodywork. In referring to this particular case I am suggesting that it is a sub-optimal combination of tyre and rim in performance and engineering terms, rather than trying to take the moral high ground. And I am sure that smiffy will feel an improvement when he changes them for something with a better balance of tyre width for hte rim. However, I am quite happy to go all Daily Mail when I see some of the peculiar things with 45 degree slanting sidewalls that are being tortured to death on various Golfs... that's just cruel, that is...