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Wheeler Dealers 993 this Monday 9.00pm Discovery

carreraboy

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Featuring the every school boy's dream 993 .. so the trailer said, personally all those years ago mine was a 2,2S in bamboo ..[:D]
 
Episode much discussed on the 911uk forum. Happy reading
http://www.911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=89428
 
China didn't do a bad job all in all, shame we didn't see anything of the suspension in use out on the road, to be sure it wasn't over-rigid for the car. Good enough watch, though, IMHO, even with its tightly-timed editing[:)]
 
I agree, could have been a 2 hour show really, and why oh why did they waste £3K on that load of crap suspension? Its a targa!

Mike did notice it had the "veryram" engine though, boy he knows his onions!
 
Haha, but at least he didn't muddle it with "verycam" as per water-cooled variants !!

You're right, £3k completely mis-spent as the system's rendered non-adjustable due to the vehicle type so will just end up left in the same setting all the while.

Reckon they should have saved a packet on the suspension and fitted the static type then gone further in the lights dept, eg Xenons + LEDs, for greater useable benefit / more up to date.

Maybe the chap who bought it will do. Maybe he's on here and he'll tell us himself[:-]
 

ORIGINAL: graeme

Haha, but at least he didn't muddle it with "verycam" as per water-cooled variants !!

You're right, £3k completely mis-spent as the system's rendered non-adjustable due to the vehicle type so will just end up left in the same setting all the while.

Reckon they should have saved a packet on the suspension and fitted the static type then gone further in the lights dept, eg Xenons + LEDs, for greater useable benefit / more up to date.

Maybe the chap who bought it will do. Maybe he's on here and he'll tell us himself[:-]

Being in the public eye on such shows however would have made life tricky for them doing Xenon conversions, since they are now almost certainly deemed an MOT failure with the recent MOT changes (amongst many). Bulbs are a good point they raise (on my daily, I had a cheapo bulb blow in less than 30 minutes. Sods law I had a policeman with nothing better to do approach me at that very moment. Lesson learned).

Do 993s come with adjustable suspension from the off?

It certainly was one of their better efforts out of some their cars mind you :).
 
ORIGINAL: ChasR


ORIGINAL: graeme

Haha, but at least he didn't muddle it with "verycam" as per water-cooled variants !!

You're right, £3k completely mis-spent as the system's rendered non-adjustable due to the vehicle type so will just end up left in the same setting all the while.

Reckon they should have saved a packet on the suspension and fitted the static type then gone further in the lights dept, eg Xenons + LEDs, for greater useable benefit / more up to date.

Maybe the chap who bought it will do. Maybe he's on here and he'll tell us himself[:-]

Being in the public eye on such shows however would have made life tricky for them doing Xenon conversions, since they are now almost certainly deemed an MOT failure with the recent MOT changes (amongst many). Bulbs are a good point they raise (on my daily, I had a cheapo bulb blow in less than 30 minutes. Sods law I had a policeman with nothing better to do approach me at that very moment. Lesson learned).

Do 993s come with adjustable suspension from the off?

It certainly was one of their better efforts out of some their cars mind you :).
Sorry but retro HID's arent an MOT failure, I have an official responce from the department of transport confirming it, so no worries there, seems to be a rumour thats been circulating for a while.
 
Found this on the AA website regarding HIDs and MOT

Headlight requirements are updated to take account of the particular characteristics of High Intensity Discharge (HID) lamps.

HID headlights can cause dazzle if they are dirty or aimed too high, so they are generally (if light output exceeds 2000 lumens) fitted in conjunction with headlamp cleaning and levelling systems. Where HID or LED dipped beam headlamps are fitted the tester will switch on the headlamps and check the operation of any headlamp levelling and cleaning devices fitted.

The car will fail if a headlamp levelling or cleaning device is inoperative or otherwise obviously defective.

If a headlamp bulb is not seated correctly the resulting beam pattern will be indistinct and this will result in a test fail.

It doesn't say that a self levelling or cleaning device has to be fitted, only that they must work if fitted. (That has corrected my thoughts on the subject!)

Cheers,
 

ORIGINAL: Fred Hindle

Found this on the AA website regarding HIDs and MOT

Headlight requirements are updated to take account of the particular characteristics of High Intensity Discharge (HID) lamps.

HID headlights can cause dazzle if they are dirty or aimed too high, so they are generally (if light output exceeds 2000 lumens) fitted in conjunction with headlamp cleaning and levelling systems. Where HID or LED dipped beam headlamps are fitted the tester will switch on the headlamps and check the operation of any headlamp levelling and cleaning devices fitted.

The car will fail if a headlamp levelling or cleaning device is inoperative or otherwise obviously defective.

If a headlamp bulb is not seated correctly the resulting beam pattern will be indistinct and this will result in a test fail.

It doesn't say that a self levelling or cleaning device has to be fitted, only that they must work if fitted. (That has corrected my thoughts on the subject!)

Cheers,

Fred, thats basically what my confirmation from the agency stated, if you have washers and self leveling, they must work. On top of that beam angle has to be correct however, thats the same for HID or halogen.
 
A fair point, I stand corrected. I was under the impression that the 2012 kits were to attempt to eliminate the use of HID kits in the aftermarket world. Beam pattern probably has quite a bit to account for mind you with these kits.
 
Beam pattern though in terms of length of horizontal reach outward from the car isn't part of the MOT of course, so no problem at all.

Beam pattern in the vertical plane upward from the road / floor is in the MOT and is exactly the same with HIDs or halogens as it's the same reflector doing the work for both, so no problem at all.

And as said in many other threads on this, 993s are specced up from the factory to take HIDs, ie have the headlamp wash and levelling fitted as standard, so no problem at all.

In short, no difficulties when it comes to MOT, so a no-brainer on the question of retro-fitting them.
 

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