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White smoke after oil overfill

christopherhinves

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Hi,
My mechanic overfilled my 964 . I put it to bed for a few months only to find oil on the floor .The car smoked st start up and after 30 mins running it did not stop but got better. I checked the oil level and it was way over .

The oil has been taken out nlow and it is now in limit . The exhaust still gives out white smoke at start up and clears after 5 mins . I took it for a 60 mile drive and on way back no smoke . Today on start up white smoke again , then dies off. It still a few puffs sometimes .
Will this clear after some time , is there anything else I need to do ?
any help would be most appreciated .
 
You've done all the right things. You need to document the issue with the idiot who serviced the car as overfilling can cause damage.
 
Depends what you mean by"in limit"-the only true way is with the engine so warm that the side thermostat has opened & oil is flowing through the front oil cooler,& the car is on a level surface with the engine running at tickover.

Then use the dipstick in the fashion advised in the handbook-I used to remove ,wipe clean,replace several times sometimes using the dipstick rotated through 180degs so that the dipstick tube doesn't smear the oil line.
I also always kept the level slightly below the dipstick HI mark-especially on track days or sprints.
 
Thanks . the oil now is mid way between the two markers now . Tested it when the car is at full temperature on flat when running with dipstick .

If the the smoke is clearing , do you think it has done any harm to the car ? Do I have to put a new oil filter in or should the car sort its self now ? The smoke has got largely better since now at normal limits . I would say it was 2 quarts over and I just drove it back from mechanics with that in it . Chris
 
Chris, may be worth looking at one or two other things not overfill related;

Sounds to me that being laid up for a few months is a clue. Normal for the M64 engine after decades and 000's of miles service to have one or two very small leaks with the odd spot on the garage floor (nothing to worry about or to listen to rebuild stories about either). With regular driving (say once a week or so up to temp) any small drips burn off without being noticed. However, if laid up for a while some oil drops 'soak' in to hidden areas such as on top of the secondary muffler (or G pipe if you use that instead). This area typically from the oil filter housing in/out pipes behind the wing. Another area may be oil/fluid soaked, in or resting on top of, the heat exchangers (towards the rear axle end). This area from potential very small power steering fluid or engine oil filling spills/leaks that have graivited towords the rear of the engine and out through the tinware on to the exchanger.

A couple of years ago I had exactly the same white smoke issue as you but knew oil level was fine. Realised I hadn't taken it out for a spin for over a month. Wheels off and straightaway noticed oil staining/dampness on the filter feed pipe at its' lowest part, ran a finger over the top of the secondary muffler, again some oil staining. Muffler came off then could see that further back on the muffler mounting bracket was more oil staining, but this time from above (engine tinware gap corner of engine where steering fluid and engine oil spillage from topping up collects). Took this as an early Spring opportunity to strip oil pipework off, remove filter housing, make good and redress all compression surfaces and refit. Power steering pipe replaced (reservoir to pump) as this can be prone to old wear cracks and leaks round the out-of-sight union into the pump (cheap OPC pipe).

If white smoke then it's usually oil burning off at a different (hotter) temp. If an engine issue then maybe not so white and would stay with you most running temps. If also coupled with rough idling, or less than ideal throttle response low down, then check the ISV for oil residue and clean out with carb cleaner and leave to dry. If you definitely know you had a quite a mega overfilling then maybe also remove the MAF sensor/meter and take off the throttle housing rubber 'manifold' ("air box" in the Katalog) and give that a good clean out of all oil residue (MAF too, with some care).

Oil consumption for the 964 was high out the factory (1.5L or 2.6 pints every 620 miles!), so don't be put off by needing to check level frequently and topping up if you have to.

Plenty of waffle but hopefully useful..

Marcus
 
Thanks Marcus . Engine runs good and idle fine as is throttle power . Probably got a small leak and the overfill may have made it worse .

not too technical so wouldnt know how to clean out the air filters and bits . Will it eventually burn off its self or do I need to take it to a garage do you think ? Thanks so much.
 
No problem Chris. Just a couple of ideas and thoughts that's all. If idling and throttle response is all good then little to worry about from an ISV/MAF point of view. Was referring to the oil filter housing - the part you have to shine a torch through behind the rear offside wheel in order to see properly. An easy check, and if all dry then good.

Yes, the more you use on longer runs, the more any 'settled' oil from the lay-up will burn off.

Drive it often and drive it hard!
 

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