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Witchfinder General.....

Ex Skyline

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....Whoever you may be? This is for you. But first of all, I would just like to say a BIG thank you to Andy, Steve, Paul, Martin (by
text), for your kind words. They are very much appreciated [:)]. Andy, for a very long time now, I have said to you that there is
some kind of "Witch Hunt/Vendetta" going on against me and, I am glad you too can now see it. I have met some fantastic people
on here either in person or, only on here. You know who you are and, you have my contact details (although, I don't have all of
yours). It would be nice to stay in touch [:)]. Unfortunately, I have also met a few idiots with whom I have no desire to speak with
again [8|]. To my detractors I will say this; I do not hide behind a key board, whatever I have to say I will say it to that person's
face. They may not always like to hear it but, hey, life's a b1tch! I "walk it like I talk it"! The flip side of this, of course, is that I
seem to have developed my own little group of people who take offense to anything that I say and, who get their knickers in a
twist ringing up the moderators, administrators, the Household Cavalry, ranting and raving about banning me instead of, just
banning me [8|]! All this "Political Correctness" was started only a few years ago by gutless, leftie, do-gooders and, idiots. That is
why the country has gone to the dogs! I won't be doing with any of that crap! I will always tell it like it is, call "a spade a spade".
With me, what you see is what you get, nothing more and nothing less. So, Witchfinder General, you can have my middle finger
[:mad:]!!! I have enjoyed being on here, as I say, I have met some terrific people and hope to stay in contact whilst I am re-building
my car. I just can't be doing with the two faced, gutless idiots anymore. I have decided to come off of here, if not for good then,
for quite a long break (unless I am finally banned [:D])! Good luck fellas! I wish you all a very happy Christmas and a terrific
2015 [8D][:D]!

PS: You can slag me off all you like now. I'm outta' here! I won't respond [;)].
 
This a shame mate that you feel this way. I wouldn't bother worrying about these numpties. Starting a thread on you 944 Turbo project......that needs to happen soon surely [;)]
 
Hi Pete, after our texts I was sort of expecting this, but am sorry it has come to this. Forums are places that are occupied by egos just as the Company Boardroom, Office, Shop Floor and all other walks of life.

The difference on a forum is that 'some' users can use it as a way of saying things without comeback as it is an anonymous place with people 100's even 1000's of miles away.

I said it on the other thread that things can be taken out of context in written words and sometimes people write without thinking fully what they have put down.

I hope your self inflicted exodus is short lived and we see you and your car back soon [;)]

 
As Martin said, I hope so too.

This is a great forum, there is enthusiasm, banter, knowledge (sometimes[:D]) thats why we all keep coming back. There is discipline, and without the Mods the place would fall apart. And there are mistakes, thats life.......

I enjoy your input Pete, I regard you as one of the most colourful contributors, but I wont pretend you don't sail close to the wind occasionally, and I equally enjoy TTM's input, knowledgable input. In the same car-park, I imagine you two would be chatting and we all would be if we were there, thats mates too....[8|]

Actually a guy in a 924 waved to me the other day, and I waved back and had to smile, it reminded me of your comments from the past. It was a LHD Dutch? French? reg car. Very early 924. Paul would love it - 13" rims I think [:D]

Life is too short, we are all interested in the subjects on the forum, and we need everyone's comments on whats happening, and Martin's Mag' Teledials.

George
944t




 
Hi Pete

I too am sorry to see you go and hope you'll reconsider... I don't know what has caused this but can assure you that you have friends here who wish you well but more importantly wish you to stay.

whatever you decide good luck mate and let us know how the car progresses...ATB

Pete






 
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As a newbie to the forum, I'm oblivious to most of this but I would say that I have enjoyed all of your posts, hope you are back soon and looking forward to a build thread.

ATB
 
Well Pete, you have fallen out with a couple of people here but not the majority, no need to stop posting, you did me a huge favour and went out of your way last year and did not have to, very much appreciated, i fear some people take your posts a little too seriously, you have got in to the spirit of things by organising a couple of runs, no need to turn your back now.
Obviously some people do not like the "shopfloor" expletives, personally i am fine with it,maybe just food for thought fella ;-)
Off to work again tomorrow, some great people there and some i put up with !!
 
I wasn't going to reply here, but I feel it's unfair not to correct things when the replies imply that people have got the wrong end of the stick.

Firstly, we have 64 moderators here, plus 5 admins. There is no witch-hunt, there is no moderator with any sort of agenda or power, just a lot of people doing a thankless job.

Pete, you say "I do not hide behind a key board, whatever I have to say I will say it to that person's face", but none of the moderators or admin have come to me and said they've heard from you? I spoke to you at Brands a few weeks ago and you didn't raise this?

For those who might see this as a one-off, Pete was the subject of a serious complaint over his constant swearing on this forum a few months ago. I know it's pathetic, and personally I don't care about it, but the majority of the 20,000 forum members, and more importantly the majority of the Club members who pay for the forum, want it kept free of swearing.

That includes the pointless use of 5h1t, as an example. It's childish, and it only gets people wound up so we have to deal with it.

For what it's worth I did stand up for Pete when this was last an issue, as did other 944 moderators, as none of us want to see one of the great 944 characters leave. The 944 group is worse off without him, but if he can't write a post without the swearing this is always going to end in tears!

Frenchy, you say "you have fallen out with a couple of people here but not the majority". Unfortunatley there is a massive majority who want this forum to be different from places like Pistonheads. I've tried many times to relax the rules, but the majority really do want one place that's less "shouty" than other forums.

I've said it time and time again. We admins, and the volunteer moderators, can only apply the rules you guys want. We do that, so it's a bit unfair to attack us when we are only doing our job. If you want the rules changed, ask? If a majority go for a different set of rules then that's great!

I have the Witchfinder General recorded from a week or so ago, and will watch it with renewed interest as it's one of my all-time favourites. I'm assuming Pete meant me here, despite my behind-the-scenes efforts on his behalf, but no hard feelings from me and I hope he feels the same. [&o]
 
I guess its a bit like going to a nightclub. Some will let you in wearing jeans and trainers, others will insist on a more strict dress code. So don't complain about it. If you want in to this club, you have to go with the code. Its not as if there are no other places where you can partake in Porsche chat with a more 'relaxed' code.
FWIW, it might seem 'uptight', but I appreciate what the club is trying to maintain here"¦.some of the drivel that floods other places detracts from the value of the interchange that we can appreciate on this forum.

Now I must slap myself for using FWIW!
 
Nice reply Paul.

I have heard nothing from Pete either so I'm unsure as to what he refers to.

None of are perfect, we all makes mistakes (my wife says I make too many) but we try to learn from them as we go through life and not repeat them.

If he does happen to come on here and see this post I would love him to PM me and get to the bottom of all this.
 
All very cryptic, but from experience the use and application of rules to silence or exclude people from discussions etc is actually defined as Bullying. We should therefore be careful as to how we apply these.

 

ORIGINAL: pbrett
We should therefore be careful as to how we apply these.
We are.

However, if you look through the forum rules, like 'em or loathe 'em, they are currently what everyone who posts on this forum signs up to and agrees to abide by. Apart from blatant spamming on the forum, individual transgressions are given a great deal of consideration before any "bullying" is applied. Rules 3.1.2 3.1.6 and 3.1.7 are the usual culprits![;)] That said, I have no idea what this thread is about either...........
 
I for one hope that you do not leave. Sure enough you do not appear to beat about the bush, but I for one will miss your contribution, and that is as a member who is still lurking on here!
 

wow ...been away from this site for a few months and now this site seems to go as some of the other car forums where members feels a need to leave because of "witch hunting " by others members !

personally it would not bother me one little bit what others thinks behind their keyboards [:D][:D]
 
wow ...been away from this site for a few months and now this site seems to go as some of the other car forums where members feels a need to leave because of "witch hunting " by others members !

Don't understand why you'd say that?

Fact is, one member out of nearly 20.000 refused to abide by the rules. He chose to leave, no-one's been kicked?

Were is the witch-hunt? Nice, convenient term, but a bit stupid given the reality of the situation!

The ironic thing is that this site tries to keep itself different from the "other car forums", but one person leaving over not being allowed to swear all the time means we are doing something wrong?

Let's be honest here, and can you please answer this? If there is a witch-hunt on all the car forums, where are all the people being "forced" to leave going? That'll be a friendly forum to join! [8|]

Maybe it's better to try to keep the forums polite, and open to people who feel put off by the more aggressive alternatives? Open to all, if you agree not to use silly attempts to beat the swear filter all the time?

People don't like it. It's not adding anything to the posts, so why do it? [:eek:]

 
Damn - have I missed a good old-fashioned punch-up? What happened? When? Who did it? Did someone get a good smack in the jaw? Did they deserve it? Were the mods at fault all along?

Pete, if this means you won't be around these climes for a while then you'll be missed - by me and by many others. Your style is different to the others on here (I've been told off by the mods for some fruity language in the past - remember the "Swear Words Test" thread? I seem to remember that you were firmly by my side then, for which I was very grateful, thank you) and the place is richer for your presence. Do come back. (And I'll delete this comment when you do as I'm not normally this nice about anyone. [;)])

The lore of this place is different to other places. I have to say I don't agree with it all the time, and I think it's sometimes a bit uptight - there is no risk of it becoming anything like PistonHeads for a number of reasons, but there seems to be a strong desire to be the antithesis of PH. However I think the mods generally do a good job and get it right more often than they get it wrong (and I think our own McNulters actually works quite hard for us miserable lot). Having said that, you are a PCGB member (unlike me) and hence should have more sway over what does and doesn't happen.

Either way, we'll miss you and your swear words. I hope to meet you in person some time soon.


Oli.
 
Paul, can you as a moderator 'lock' a thread, if so I think this one needs locked now.

We can debate this as much as we like, the for's and against, but dragging it on will cause further disputes.

All the best
 

ORIGINAL: PAUL RUDDY

Paul, can you as a moderator 'lock' a thread, if so I think this one needs locked now.

We can debate this as much as we like, the for's and against, but dragging it on will cause further disputes.

All the best


Not something I like to do but I agree with you, Paul.
 

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