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Worthwhile mods...

PhilRS

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Dear all,

It seems that many 964RS owners have had their cars modified in one way or another.
For the benefit of all I thought that it might be interesting to share our knowledge on
worthwhile modifications.

I use my RS mostly for track days, rarely on the road. I have had two 964Rs so far.

1. A 3.6RS (with a different chip, ~285bhp), to which I later had the hot-film fitted
(~297bhp).

2. A heavily modified RS, which has all the mods listed below:
3.8 engine upgrade
6-speed gearbox
bigger brakes
H&R dual-spring shocks
chassis set-up

The conjunction of the 3.8 engine and 6-speed gearbox basically provides 5 usable
gears (with more torque) on a typical track, when only 4 (longish, particularly 2d)
are available with the standard 964RS box. I know of RS owners who have changed the
king and pinion of their standard gearbox to shorten the ratios. This is a cheaper option
to be able to use all 5 gears. The enhanced power and torque of the 3.8 become
most noticeable after 100 mph...

The bigger brakes (from the 993 cup) allow to brake a bit later. Useful at the end
of these long straights...

The H&R dual spring shocks transform the behavior of the car on regular roads
(one of the spings accommodate fast bumps), in addition to be fully adjustable
for the track, allowing more pointy setups with slicks.

Any opinion out there on the worthiness of the Motec system? I have read wonders
about it, but my hot-film 3.6RS (dynoed @ 297bhp) was keeping up on long straights
with a Motec 3.6RS (dynoed @ 330bhp, but not the same dynos unfortunately ;).
The more pointy question is this: Is there a significant difference between a
remapped 964RS ECU (i.e. with an improved chip), and the Motec mapping; I mean
a performance difference that justifies the 3-4,000 pounds of the latter, compared
with a fraction of the cost for an improved chip?

Bear in mind all of this is arises from a naive mind (not a mechanical/setup expert).
I am Looking forward to hear about your mods and opinions...

PhilRS
 
Colin Belton 9Meister the Motec Guru 01925 242342 would not run anything else, very interesting debate recently between himself and Gary Bullen GT3 Reg Sec (ON TITANIC)........if it produces the said BHP then it must be good, however is not circa 300bhp enough! My car is plenty quick for me, AMD chip and a few tweeks circa 285BHP, have enough trouble staying with it on full belt and pulls away from practically everything else on the straight......I once followed a 964RS that had an Autofarm Kompressor (M25) I was in the family estate, it just vanished in the distance....ultimately you pays your money.......personally happy with my BHP, but not a Track Day Warrior just a Novice learning how to harness what I got and what FUN!! Really need to experience the extra BHP Phil........so look forward to a passenger ride at Spa.........Incidentally we have a RUF 964RS Turbo 400BHP+ coming on the Register Display this weekend......
 
Des,

I agree that circa 300bhp is more than enough for an RS on twisty tracks,
and it is already difficult enough to transform power into forward motion ;)

My main motivation for more power arose from the fact that I do more
track days at Spa (~5 per year) than anywhere else. Spa has one
looonnnnnnng uphill straight (Kemel, ~220-225kmph at the 100 m breaking
point in my 3.6RS), another long uphill curvy section (broken by scarry
Blanchimont), and a good number of fast curves, meaning that the 4th and
5th gears of the 5-speed geabox are often used.

Going up the long uphill straight means upshifting in 5th at the level
of the kink (1/3 of the distance to the braking point). From there on to
the braking point, the combination of long gearing and incline means that
the 3.6RS gets caught " between gears" with the standard gearbox/engine...
Same applies for the long uphill curvy section before just Blanchimont...

The lap time advantage of the 3.8RS over the 3.6RS at Spa is about 6-8 sec.

Ph.
 
Just done the Brands Indy this evening, she went like a dream could not harness all the power, instant response and pick up.........I think we lose track with the 964RS and what it was originally designed..........CLUB RACING............on fairly twisty tight tracks.......have you booked me in Phil for a Hot Lap at Spa...........love to see the difference in real life.......will I be reaching for my wallet again.......You need to speak with Colin BELTON if you want to go Motec.........by the way what about JZ Machtech Dyno Sat 6th September 9.15 sharp it' s free with grub too!!
 

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