Xenon/Litronic kits... which one?

JP_Albin · Feb 8, 2005

All,

This subject has made a few appearances on previous posts, and resulted in many posts....[8|]

... I have another question .. some of you have had your 993 (or other Porsche) upgraded with a Xenon/Litronic kit. There seem to be many available, and i would like some advice and/or views on your experiences, good or bad...[

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This question may be getting tedious, and i really apologise, but i am SO confused about what kit I should go for...[&:]

Many thanks...

Stewart Rix · Feb 8, 2005

JP

I fitted an Autolamps kit (hid-online.com) a couple of years ago (about £350 then I think). The thing that attracted me to their one was the combined ignitor and ballast. Fitting was easy (once a helpful fellow 993 owner had pointed out that I could junk most of the supplied wiring). The OE connectors are retained to allow the headlamp unit to be removed as normal and the ignitor/ballast can be tucked into the empty space behind each headlamp, so nothing shows, for example in the luggage area. The difference is startling - Porsche Centre Reading aligned the lights (free) to make sure they were not dazzling other drivers.

Stewart

JP_Albin · Feb 8, 2005

Stewart,

Thank you very much for your reply. That's good information, especially as the price looks reasonable...[

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Will keep you posted.

Thanks again.

JP_Albin · Feb 10, 2005

Maurice,

AAAAHHH!!.. they were the ones!... i have a terrible memory! [

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... i am definitely getting on with it![

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Sundeep · Feb 10, 2005

any idea what there special price for the 6000k kit is as well... we could all do a group buy !

Sundeep · Feb 10, 2005

disagree with that.. IMHO the 4100k bulbs are billed at daylight spectrum and look somewhat normal.....

it's just the way they look when you look at them.. the 6000k kits have a slightly crisper & newer look to them.. although seem to pick up colour details better at the limits of the light spread..

in the end there is no difference in the 6000k & 4100k to their power or spread and both have an indential field of light.....

[X(][X(] sigh ..... regards, Sundeep [:-]

Sundeep · Feb 10, 2005

ORIGINAL: MoC2S

Sorry, Sundeep, but if you ask Autolamps they will tell you that the 4100s put out more light than the 6000s, because of the changes necessary to move the spectrum output.

Please don't publish misinformation if you don't know the facts - personal preference for a blue tint is another matter entirely ...

Harrumph ! cheers, Maurice []

STEADY ON CHAP !

I said... they both give the same light output which is "what it is all about" and said they "look" different, which is correct....

merely stating my opinion, which is what we are all doing.... however there are many other 'retailer' who say a 6000k kit is better... but then autolamps sell both, and even have a link to explain all about the 6000k, so then where is this mis-information ? answer = everywhere !

not really sure why I get such a reply if I happen to 'disagree'.. as for the Harrump'ing....err ?

regards

968er · Feb 10, 2005

4100k do give out more light, but there is not a great difference and it is a hell of a lot better than than the standard light. As was said, it comes down to personal preference, which was why I went for 6000k which when they come on initially have a slight blue tint but once on look white.

Sundeep · Feb 10, 2005

Just as a steering rack brace is not a strut brace ......

Give me a break !

Harrumph !

blimey indeed, thank god Kofi Annan is in the country !

so what's the deal here ? .... rather than posting in a constructive manner you continue with your one view of the world only allowed here ? come on fellow 993'er !

well I'm here to provide my information that I have from whatever source it has come from, other forum users can use it or not... or do prefer a quiet forum ?

at the end of the day 4100 or 6000, you can even have 8000k or 10,000K if you want.. blah blah blah.. autolamps sell 'em both, go figure..... [&:]

regards
Sundeep

Guest · Feb 11, 2005

ORIGINAL: MoC2S

4100 is the daylight spectrum.

Maurice, where did you get the info that daylight is 4100 degrees Kelvin? I reckon it's between 5000 and 6000 degrees Kelvin. Mornings and evenings the light may be warmer but for most of the daylight hours the light is cold.

The number doesn't refer to the spectrum; it gives the average temperature. The colour rendering index (CRI) shows how even the illumination is over the spectrum; eg sunlight has the max CRI of 100. I bet these bulbs have an enormous peak in output at the specified wavelength and little output elsewhere.

So, if someone wants a more daylight bulb, go 6000...

All IMVHO

By the way, how do these guys measure the light output? Is there a standard or is it typical marketing hype?

Regards

Bob

boothy · Feb 11, 2005

Chaps, there is lots of technical data on the HID-online site to explain. For more light you need more lumens, not a higher temperature.
As these are sold for off-road use only, you should have fun [

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You might also want to consider that the Road Traffic Act demands that cars with HID lighting also have headlight washing and automatic self-levelling.
If your MOT tester is on the ball your car will fail without these. [

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Good luck

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38F3E1 · Feb 11, 2005

ORIGINAL: boothy

.... You might also want to consider that the Road Traffic Act demands that cars with HID lighting also have headlight washing and automatic self-levelling.
If your MOT tester is on the ball your car will fail without these.

That is correct. All these aftermarket kits are technically illegal unless self levelling is fitted at the same time (which involves throwing away a lot of the standard parts). That's why they are so much cheaper than the official Porsche conversion kit.

Ian.

Sundeep · Feb 11, 2005

ORIGINAL: MoC2S

The Register forums are primarily to provide advice to owners of specific models. The more sensible the advice the better. Misinformation is worse than no information. All sensible contributions are very welcome, as are articles for the Register column of Porsche Post, should someone get the urge to provide one. This forum is reasonably active now, and I am desirous that it remain so, which is why I take too much time from a busy life in order to monitor the forum and provide whatever assistance I can.

There are plenty of chat rooms, quite a few Porsche oriented ones, where you can talk whatever rubbish you want to talk. If that is what you want from the Register Forum, just submit your name to Robin Walker ....

you certainly have issues to solve, you start out with a normal response then go off saying we speak rubbish or are you pointing at someone specific ? all from a post about xenon bulbs ! I have no idea where this has come from ? but this is clearly directed at fellow members who post on this forum, if you want to point score please do so, as I do not or ever will, but I will continue to help anyone who I can.....

a forum provides information, experiences, opinons whether good or bad, negative or positive, debate and banter and most importantly a community for all fellow owners, everyone is welcome (Ferrari's Rule et al....)

"shake of head and walks away"