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I find it incredible that PAG have not fixed this for a new/facelifted model. Surely this was their chance to re-establish some engineering credibility over this issue.[&:]
 
although my work PC won't let me access that forum...

I guess it's RMS problems in the 997 ? [:eek:] or hopefully not...?????
 

ORIGINAL: captain chaos

I find it incredible that PAG have not fixed this for a new/facelifted model. Surely this was their chance to re-establish some engineering credibility over this issue.[&:]
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[:eek:]Can one therefore conclude it's not fixable using the current design/family of engines and gearboxes hence the saga leaks on [:mad:]
 
I wonder if Porsche have thought about using dow corning bath sealer or a boot over the shaft.
That is bad news for Porsche, it doesnt look good for the future
 
Tool Pants (Jeff) posted the following on rennlist in the Forum thread that the link refers to:

I reported some time ago that the 997 uses the Cayenne seal since they had identical part numbers. This is not true. The Cayenne seal is 948 101 212 02 and PET had the same part number for the 997 seal. PET was wrong on the 997 part number. The 997 correct part number is 999 113 490 41. The 996/Boxster part number is 999 113 490 40. Apparently the 41 part number will be the replacement for the 996/Boxster.
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So you can see that the 997/996 & Boxster all use the same seal and part number. This means nothings changed and the problem persists.

Shame on you Porsche!
 
It also surely means that Porsche aren't too bothered about this - which also surely means that there aren't engines blowing up by the score all over the world.
 
ORIGINAL: MikeO

It also surely means that Porsche aren't too bothered about this - which also surely means that there aren't engines blowing up by the score all over the world.
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To be fair, an RMS leak is never going to blow up an engine, the "damage" caused by it in reality is very minor - its just a shame they will continue to take £500+ each time to fix a design flaw. Maybe incontinence pants for your M96 engine are the order of the day?[:eek:]

Greig...(happily now with an engine design with no RMS issue)
 

ORIGINAL: GreigM

ORIGINAL: MikeO

It also surely means that Porsche aren't too bothered about this - which also surely means that there aren't engines blowing up by the score all over the world.
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To be fair, an RMS leak is never going to blow up an engine, the "damage" caused by it in reality is very minor - its just a shame they will continue to take £500+ each time to fix a design flaw. Maybe incontinence pants for your M96 engine are the order of the day?[:eek:]

Greig...(happily now with an engine design with no RMS issue)
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Greig
do I detect a hint of smugness in your post[:D][:D]
 
ORIGINAL: Andrew Killington
Greig
do I detect a hint of smugness in your post[:D][:D]
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Maybe just a touch [;)] It is a shame though - I ruled out all C2/C4/C4S in the search for a new car simply because of this problem.
 
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If I was in the market for a newer 911 would certainly be a factor for me too. I think I would try to get a written assurance it would be fixed FOC from the dealer regardless of any warranty claim. If the dealer wouldn't give that, I'd either walk, or beat them down by another £500.
 
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