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deutschland dobson

deutschland dobson

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Good news is ive sold my weekend car and im now able to buy the 964 C4 that ive been researching / wanting for some months now! [:)]

The only prob is which to buy and here is where I would like to ask a quick question.

Ive seen a C4 with the ideal spec, however the millage is v.high. Its over the 170k mark, with a top end rebuild 30k mile previous. Would you give it a look or not bother? The only thing im worried about is the bottom end and other components that would be worn. Is it common for a 964 to run well into the 200Ks?

Sorry for the cheeky question, just dont want to shell out for a PPI if its not worth it [8|]

Chris
 
Personally - each car on it's own merits and mileage on motorways is different from B road blasting year after year (which is huge fun but it wears a car more than motorways). Personally, I'd look at 5 or 6 before really making any clear decision (and consider both C2 and C4). Depending upon where you are, there may be local independent dealers with stock you can mooch around and get an idea of what's what. For me, I found a car that then stood out from the crowd I'd viewed, got Peter Morgan's company to check it over,had long discussions with them about what the report REALLY meant and then took the plunge. I've yet to find a fault they missed and yet to receive a bill that was not estimated appropriately. Given the age of the car, you may choose to consider rust as the driver for a decision as you could chase this on a poor car for ever. There is plenty of choice and rarely anything better than a recommendation from a trusted source (even if it means travelling).

Best of luck,
Mike
 
What kind of thing are you looking for Chris?

Putting my C4 up for sale in the near future.

Rob
 
Cheers for the quick reponse guys :)

Does any one have Peter Morgans contact details?

Ive looked at a few 964s now at both Indys and non-specialists. The C4 is defo the car for me as I have just moved from 300+BHP of rear wheel drive car and was never confident enough to use the power fully during the 4 years that I owned it!

I have seen a car that I like at an Indy, however the colour isnt right. It has v.low millage (85k) with a new re-build. The car is Guards Red and I have my heart set on Slate Grey. £3k seperates the car above from the high miller.

After speeking to the folks at the recent NE meet they all mentioned that I should be sure to pick the corect colour first time, or it would always be in the back of my mind!

Decisions, decisions

Chris
 
I think a lot of owners would say that the colour is the last thing to worry about. Most say look at condition, condition, condition.
 
The right colour car that surprises with big bills loses its charm pretty
quick ! A well sorted red car would be fine for me, especially with
black interior.
 
Nearly 170K on mine too. Plenty of examples in America with over 200K although they drive them on straight roads and not as fast as us! [:D] All these cars will need constant attention IMO and therefore you're better buying one with records that show it has had lots of attention. Colour....I didn't want white but now I love it...colour is the least important factor when buying one of these cars I reckon.
 
Thanks again folks. I know condition should weigh over colour, its just once you have your mind set on something...

I'll have another look at the G. Red one once my head has cleared from selling my car! The interior of the red one is linen on white too, which I prefer over the black :)

Chris
 
If you are buying a car that is very common, and therefore still have plenty of choice in the colour you require, then fine. Otherwise, as others say buy on condition. My 3.2 was blue, I wanted a red one, looked at loads of red ones, they were all substandard, saw a really nice blue one, and had to have it. Never looked back!!

Mint Green now - slightly different story! [:D]
 
Hi Chris , just jumping in on this thread to say don't be in a hurry to find your car .

I have met Rob Hounslow and seen his car , and its definitely worth you following up on that one - even if its red !

Good luck !
 
Thanks John

It'll be up on Pistonheads and here at the weekend.

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Just regarding mileage, my US 964C2 has done 180k with one owner, fully serviced from new. I contacted the owner and he said it started to leak oil quite badly from 140K so he had a full rebuild done by a Porsche main dealer, after another 20k it started leaking again and the dealer told him the cases were shot and he needed a new motor. So that's why he sold it on and it was built up as a race car with another unit.

The other point is, have you driven a C2 and C4 back to back? The C4 is not as rewarding a drive and a C2 will be a better track car. The C4 is a bit more surefooted so if you aren't that good a driver then it's the one to have.[:mad:]
 
Yeah me too Steve but even though I'm not desperate to get rid, I think it's time to stick a few ads up and if I get a sale then so be it.

Still gut wrenching though, everytime I look on the drive I wonder whether it's the right thing to do but better to do it now rather than if I really have too.
 
Rob,

If you could send me the details it would be most appreciated (chrisdobson@thompsonsofprudhoe.com)

Richard,

At present I dont intend to track the car. I wouldnt say that im a bad driver (whos going to admit that!), the C4 just sounds the car for me. I will try to drive both C2 and C4 back to back, however finding a garage with a C2 and C4 within the North of England sounds a tall order!
 
The C4 is defo the car for me as I have just moved from 300+BHP of rear wheel drive car and was never confident enough to use the power fully during the 4 years that I owned it!
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Don't be so sure. 300+BHP on a rear wheel drive car with no weight over it can be interesting. A 911 with the engine sitting over the rear is a completely different experience. Not like any other RWD car you have driven. Some swear by 2WD and some by 4WD so I won't get into that argument but drive them both before you buy.

Ian.
 
Hi Chris,
Buying anything 'second-hand' hoping that it will tick every box is a tall order. IMO you'll have to prioritise your wish list in the order of most important. You have probably gathered by the responses thus far that condition is high on the list, if not number one! Exterior first then interior. The interior is also a good indication if original, of its treatment. 2nd, complete service history together with coresponding receipts. 3rd also receipts of other work carried out, when and what and so on....... You'll probably find the colour aspect comes well down the list.
Then when you are satisfied with these, have the car inspected by a well respected independant, someone who is well knowledgable in 964's. Plenty of folks on here to advise near where you are or where the car is! Then, Bob's yer uncle, you'll probably end up with a cracking 964 in a colour you never thought you'ed have. Best of luck in your search
 
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